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Y’all know that spiders can climb right?
And that spiders often make webs that look like this? Famously, funnel spiders?
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You say that but many have similar structures that use the same force to climb and cling.
Last time this was posted, the some answers said it’s actually likely a nest (funnel web spider or something?) and the “dead spider” shed skin.
So the metaphor for capitalism is… The Rich carry on eating the produce of the Poor, while the socialists look on and think the system is dying? Haha! Checkmate Poors!
This pic makes me sad. Lil bro tried so hard and got so far…
But in the end, it didn’t even matter.
He had to fall to lose it all. :(
Goddamnit. I was sad and still laughed.
I have an idea for a new type of horrible animal byproduct farm
Pretty sure what we already do to collect spider silk on an industrial scale is worse than this.
Do we collect spider silk on an industrial scale?
I remember seeing something about genetically modifying goats such that they would produce the proteins in spider silk in their milk, so the milk could be processed and then silk could be mechanically spun. This is a half-remembered TV documentary from years and years ago, so.
ok, hear he out, we make the cup so it’s tall enough for them to make silk to escape, but short enough so it’s only a mild inconvenience for them. less labour than current system and easier in the spiders.
problem is we don’t get a long single thread but just bundles of nets which can be spun into threads.
What do we do?
Apparently it’s knocked out with carbon dioxide?
Still pretty creepy, and not because of the spider.
That was truly disturbing to see. I’m not sure why but I did not like that at all.
I hate spiders and even I feel bad abt this shit. It’s just a cruel scenario
Little guy would of made it if he had just shot his web straight up and attached himself to the sun.
Spiderman: The Game (2002)
Pizza song starts playing
Is he stupid?
I feel bad for the spider, but I have admit the web in the glass is really cool looking, like a piece of art. I’d probably preserve that if I could (minus the spider corpse)
The spider corpse is an important piece of the art! It adds a memento mori aspect to what is otherwise just a cool place a web was spun.
It’s also the author of it, so it would definitely belong
More art galleries need to stuff and display the artists corpse alongside their work.
The spider gives context and removing it would diminish everything
Yeah that could be a horse web for all we know.
Or cob’s. Who knows?
They have horse on the cob now?
Get in the god-damn ship, everything’s on the cob!
Am I having a stroke?
I’m not one to kink shame so go for it.
Lmfao, it’s definitely just you
My stepdad worked hard all his life. He managed to buy his own plane and fly it all around. To some flying up in a plane might seem somewhat insignificant, but most people never get to fly at all.
We’ve only got so much time to get a plane.
You can get kit planes. I heard the Dyke Delta is the holygrail.
Dyke Delta
Nice try, but I ain’t Googling that.
TBH spider wasted fuckton of silk on unnecessary web. It died because it wasn’t smart enough
look at you, feeling superior because you think you can outsmart a spider.
next time you fall into a well i expect you to shit silk in an efficient way to escape
So yeah, a metaphor for capitalism.
Stupidity doesn’t work in any system.
Capitalism shows that it does indeed work! Just not for the average us.
ok tankie
That’s not a tankie thing to say and I doubt, a tankie would stick around on an anarchist server that doesn’t really welcome said people.
Wait, it works for you, too?
Majority rule don’t work in mental institutions
Yeah! Fuck that stupid spider! (Sarcasm, obv)
Can’t they just climb the glass?
I’m sure the spider tried
Lol no.
Sine wave formation might have been more efficient and hence resulted in survival, but I’m uncertain as to whether the web structure and anchor points would have allowed for it.
What in the middle management is this? Gonna tell a spider how to spin their web… ppfffttt lol
Well, which one of us died mismanaging their web placement?
and only one of you can shit silk
Or a metaphor for socialism… lacking the economic freedom to buy more silk, the spider couldn’t escape an artificially designed system run by a central authority that didn’t predict this scenario, because it isn’t feasible for a central authority to predict every scenario.
Or maybe, given that the looks like the glass is outside on the ground so maybe the spider was put into the glass on purpose to make the photo? So the spider was sent to a gulag to die because it wasn’t ideologically pure enough.
Or maybe it’s just a spider in a glass and you can stretch a metaphor in any direction you want.
mmm yes. a spider which engages in the free market of silk was prevented by socialists from buying silk at a competitive rate. 🧐 that DOES describe what happened here. we should end all public welfare and privatize the justice system.
It’s possible some dumbass got into power and had some goons put the spider into the glass and put tariffs on importing silk. The spider is dead and we’ll never know if the spider would be dead had there been a competent in charge. But socialists are 100% certain the spider was going to die anyway because they believe all spiders will inevitably die because some weirdo with a big beard said something about spiders a couple hundred years ago.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
No, Marx said Capitalism was a necessary stage of Socialism. It’s not that it dies, it’s necessary and becomes Socialism.
Marx for instance would have disagreed with Mao/China’s initial attempt to jump straight to Socialism… And that mistaken attempt was born out by history (as being a mistake), as it ultimately failed, and China had to open its self to becoming a Socialist Market Economy (in order to make up for its missing the Capitalist steps of becoming inevitably a Socialist society).
There’s a letter towards the end of his life where he speculates about Russia, specifically, skipping the capitalist stage because of cultural reasons.
Arising from a capitalist and industrial system is less of a requirement and more of what he considers to be the most likely scenario. You could, for example, in theory have a peasant revolution but you’d either need to attract industrial expertise to modernize your factories or reinvent a lot of wheels.
And, of course, Marxism isn’t the only socialism.
Marx is kinda hilarious, bad father, vaguely antisemitic, bet on the stock market. Funny guy. I love that conservatives are so freaked out by him.
My fella here wasting their time and energy defending the system that’s currently destroying earth and supporting the genocide of Palestinians
If people here were saying racist shit about Palestinians I’d be arguing with them. I don’t see that happen on this site, but I see there’s a bit of an antisemitism problem and that’s something someone needs to address. When people get into a bubble like this and are constantly doing stochastic terrorism talk, some fucked up things can happen if no one pipes in to make people consider they might be going off the rails a little bit.
So I’m taking a break from countering racism and stochastic terrorism on this site to poke some fun at some leftists in a shitpost thread.
Is this really the best forum to discuss genocide? If you’re looking at my comment history, maybe just reply to one of the comments where that’s already being discussed. Well if you can get in a reply before my comments get deleted, that is. Not sure if that happens in an attempt the censor other points of views or to sane-wash out the crazy replies I get when I merely offer the point of view that most people in the world hold about a subject. Either way, at least some people that see them are reminded that not everyone in the world believes the crazy things that get posted here. You obviously saw some of my comments before they got deleted, so that’s a win.
I’ve had multiple people thank me for doing this in my DMs, so there’s dozens of us! And it saddens me the intimidation tactics that get used to squelch discussion of certain subjects on this site.
So, anyway stochastic terrorism is bad, antisemitism is bad, and socialism has failed many times in history. Lets see if I get banned from the “shitpost” community for saying these outrageous things, LOL.
I’m not gonna argue with you because you’re a lost loser, but for the rest of users reading this person’s comments: this is a genocide denier asking questions such as “why do you consider the Israel-Hamas conflict a genocide?”. This is what the defence of capitalism leads to.
If you’re sad about the “intimidation tactics”, it’s very easy: stop siding with the Nazis!
Unwilling to have discussion indicates you’re afraid you might be wrong about things and discussion may bring that to light.
People who have thought through their positions aren’t afraid to discuss them. I could be wrong about some things, but if that’s the case then and a discussion brings that out, I can change my position, and then I hold stronger positions on issues.
Propagandists that are just repeating slogans are afraid to discuss the topics they supposedly care about passionately. If discussions bring to light their slogans are wrong, then that decreases their standing within their movement which is just a tribal group. The goal of the propagandist isn’t to further a cause it’s only to show loyalty to the tribe and increase their standing.
So go ahead and throw insults at me to prove your loyalty to the tribe. It only proves you’re incapable of growing your movement because you’re incapable of having a rational discussion. If you’re constantly promoting feelings of hatred to impress the political group you’re in, consider the possibility that you might be in a hate group.
Unwilling to have discussion indicates you’re afraid you might be wrong about things and discussion may bring that to light.
No, it means there’s nothing to argue in good faith with zionazis. Heard of the Nazi bar problem?
Yes lemmy indeed has a bit of a Nazi bar problem, with all the antisemitism that gets posted here unchallenged.
whatever drug you’re on, do not drive or operate heavy machinery.
It’s a smile when commenter do not understand the post ever so slightly and jumps to metaphors like a cool philosophy bro LMAO
Your problem is that you didn’t present just a critique of Socialism, you veered into praising Capitalism unnecessarily (which means a new system was introduced uncritically).
The metaphor for socialism would be that the one party controls the means of production, and that under true socialism there’d be a pile of dead spiders (heros and villains of the revolutionary period), and the web (which defines this epoch’s age of technology) would escape the glass.
Possibly the most educated spider from the party’s politburo would be able to step out of the glass… They would then climb into the next glass and try to foment a revolution there.
But all of the above is still dealing in an archiac propagandists ghost of 1950s Socialism (which wasn’t even like that to begin with)… And many parts of it are in fact a better critique of modern Capitalism with its industrial powerhouses forming monopolies and cartels interoperating with governments, and the culture industry to press people into further wealth disparity and corrupt democracy until it simulates a one party set of state Capitalist values.
Jesus. It’s a fuckin spider in a glass and you just turned into a thesis lol.
It’s four paragraphs dude. Actually due to the poor quality writing it’s really just six run on sentences.
so maybe the spider was put into the glass on purpose to make the photo? So the spider was sent to a gulag to die because it wasn’t ideologically pure enough.
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Is it half full or half empty?
More than half empty and less than half full
That’s a half truth at best
This thread is wild
