• m0darn@lemmy.ca
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    15 hours ago

    I always go pat down. I prefer to understand the scope of the privacy violation also I think it’s good to have a physical reminder of the ways our privacy is invaded.

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Former DHS security systems designers here.

    If you want to complain about body scanners, complain about the security theater, lack of privacy, or back-scratching of security industry lobbyists.

    Complaining about non-ionizing radiation is RFK-level conspiracy bullshit.

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      Didn’t the original full body scanners used at airports use backscatter X-rays, which are ionizing radiation ?

      I believe these were mostly replaced by millimeter-wave scanners, and are not used anymore (even banned in some countries) but a lot of the initial pushback and debate surrounding the scanners when they were first introduced was about potential health risks of repeated X-ray exposure from those scanners, and so the idea of ionizing radiation exposure persists to this day in many people’s minds.

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      It’s still degrading. Stand on this platform for no reason other than fucking spread your legs and raise your hands like the worthless criminal you are while we x-ray and photograph you, asshole.

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        They made me stand there for a second and hold my hands out, it was the worst experience of my life. I don’t even feel human anymore. I finally know how the Uighur people must feel.

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        So we are just going to ignore the fact that there is literally no way to see if a person is trying to sneak something to the plane without x-ray or inspection?

        Just for the record, we are removing our shoes during the inspection because of the Richard Reid incident.

        We are removing laptop from the baggage because some people tried (and even succeed) to sneak the explosive devices in them.

        We are being x-raed because of hundreds of people tried to sneak different things and substances in their internals.

        So yes, I believe that every person MUST be treated as a criminal in Airport, because one person is enought to take hundreds of lives.

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          Just a regular old metal detector is all that’s required. It’s 1980s tech which doesn’t require a 9-11 era bs jobs program to go with it.

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          I vote that TSA just stands outside your house and puts you through that every day you choose to go outside. The rest of the world would be a safer place.

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      There’s no way anyone could tell if a person got the so-called “radiation treatment” or not. Not even if one could analyse every single atom in the human body, because there are no changes due to that process.

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    2 days ago

    Meanwhile, whatever no name corp has a fully loaded container of whatever material in the cargo hold under the aircraft that probably wasn’t scanned, screened or checked because the airport, airline and loading companies all work on a system of trust in order to ship and load everything as fast as possible.