A 64-year-old woman from Chicago's western suburbs is facing hate crime charges and accused of assaulting a Palestinian-American couple in a video that went viral.
      • ditty@lemm.eeEnglish
        545·
        23 days ago

        Yes but even unsympathetic Dems aren’t very likely to attack someone for their choice of sweatshirt

      • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
        1326·
        22 days ago

        Nah, most of the Zionists I know voted for Harris

        Edit: how is my personal experience being downvoted. Do you guys know what the Downvote button is for??

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
          116·
          22 days ago

          hmm. I wonder how many Trump voters you know vs how many Harris voters you know. Unless you’re an statistician, your comment is low quality and deserves downvotes.

        • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
          62·
          21 days ago

          The downvote button on Lemmy is for saying something that doesn’t fit with the neoliberal narrative.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          49·
          22 days ago

          This is the exact reason why she could not have come out as critical of Israel in any way. Something people here didn’t seem to understand. She would have lost far more votes than she would have gained from the anti-genocide voters that were far overrepresented on this site.

          • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
            13·
            22 days ago

            Wut? She should have called it a genocide. The majority of US Americans on both sides (left and right) want to stop sending them arms.

            She chose the unpopular option that war and environment profiteers prefer, and she suffered the consequences.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              911·
              22 days ago

              Get off the internet. You are extremely overestimating the support for Palestine among the average American voter. This place is not at all representative of the American public.

              AIPAC would have ratfucked her and tanked her campaign had she come out strong against Israel.

              Look at the shit Ilhan Omar had to put up with for daring to simply bringing up Israel’s financial interests in the US…

              She even signaled a day or so before election day, to anyone paying attention, that she would be harder on Israel. At the last minute so as to not give AIPAC enough time to blow up her campaign.

              • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
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                22 days ago

                Not true. I think it was something like 55% of us Republicans that opposed sending more arms to Israel, and it was over 60% of Democrats.

                The number is much higher for leftists, of course.

              • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
                41·
                21 days ago

                Telling other people to get off the internet while making claims that are SO EASILY GOOGLED TO SEE THEY ARENT TRUE is such an insane take. Bruh, you need to shut the fuck up forever and stop spreading this idea that both parties had to be pro genocide and there was no other option. That attitude is not just idiotic, it’s literally killing people.

          • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
            91·
            22 days ago

            A majority of all Americans support a ceasefire. A majority supports conditional aid and a permanent ceasefire. It was the Harris campaign that made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of at least a net +6 points gain. Those votes were entirely up for grabs. That’s the fault of the campaign’s calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with having the most lethal Military and unwaivering support for Israel a year into this genocide. That single policy change would have secured her the swing states needed to win the election.

            I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It’s still on the campaign to earn votes to win. If they took this election seriously, they would have been going after those votes.

            If AIPAC is the concern, the best way to counteract that as a campaign would be to message about conditional military aid for a permanent ceasefire just before voting begins. That way AIPAC doesn’t have time to counter with attack ads. For context, it took AIPAC 25 million and 8 months to unseat 2 members of The Squad for being anti-genocide. Less people would hear about the pivot since it would have happened so late, but it’s still enough time to galvanize grassroots support and convince others to go out of their way to vote.

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            Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.

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            In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

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            Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.

            Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.

              • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
                31·
                21 days ago

                700k high propensity Democratic voters showed up during the primaries. (Which may have been undercounted). On average, general turnout is twice that of primary turnout. Which would reflect over 1,400,000 uncommitted votes in the general as an estimate that were completely up for grabs with a single popular policy change

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      543·
      23 days ago

      Remember last time Trump was in power our feeds were full of Republicans behaving poorly in public? (in between the police beating protesters through most of 2020) - looks like we’re going to get that back again now.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        23 days ago

        their perception of how welcome their violence is intensified, too. the movement that killed Heather Heyer considers themselves ascendent. last time they had the electoral college and not the popular vote. this time, thanks to 10mil likely democrat voters who cculd swallow their pride for joe biden in 2020 but not for kamala harris in 2024, the very worst people on earth consider their view point to be the norm

        • leadore@lemmy.world
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          22 days ago

          Not 10 million. As of today (all votes still not counted) trump leads the popular vote by 2,557,324. That’s 49.9% to 48.3%. Current vote count: https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/RESULTS/zjpqnemxwvx/president/

          Not that the popular vote matters in who wins, but it’s nice to know he didn’t get a true majority of all votes cast. 1.8% of votes were 3rd party, more than the difference between trump and Harris. If the amount of those votes that were “to teach the Dems a lesson” were added to the ones where POTUS was left blank to “teach the Dems a lesson”, well … anyway.

      • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        142·
        23 days ago

        Thats more like reddit. Go take a look, its full of pro israel stuff. Some are even sympathetic to Netanyahu and compelete disregarded the civillians deaths in the pager attack in Lebanon and claimed it was some sort of genius strategy that had “minimal civillian deaths”.

              • nomous@lemmy.world
                49·
                23 days ago

                “Your” party didn’t even show up, why would anyone listen to them?

                Edit: hey at least a couple of you learned how to vote! Maybe try doing that irl and not just on the internet!

                • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  61·
                  22 days ago

                  “Your” party didn’t even show up, why would anyone listen to them?

                  Progressives don’t have a party that even considers representing them.

  • bcgm3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    55·
    23 days ago

    What a vile woman.

    Ya gotta appreciate the guy’s perfectly executed Uno Reverse Card when she started winding up to throw her cup of coffee.

  • Flocklesscrow@lemm.eeEnglish
    55·
    22 days ago

    Note that she only attempted her physical battery toward the pregnant woman, as it was obvious that the dude could have put her through the floor at any time. She wanted to hurt his pregnant wife. Yeah, thassa hate crime.

    Man showed remarkable restraint.

    • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
      15·
      22 days ago

      I think the best punishment would be to force her and her family to live in Palestine for a year.

        • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
          7·
          22 days ago

          you are about to have much bigger jurisprudential problems than temporarily exiling people who committed hate crimes

          • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
            41·
            19 days ago

            Me personally ? My neighbors are police, FBI, sheriff deputies, and prison guards.

            They break into my home, disrupt my wireless service, and poisoned my dog, run me off the road on a regular fucking basis.

            SO THANK BRO

            • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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              21 days ago

              good now imagine someone of the same mentality as your neighbours becoming the president of the USA for the second time with a dream team of crooks and grifters. also probably will set the first precedent of running for and winning presidential office while being tried for repeated sex offences.

      • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
        14·
        22 days ago

        December 16th, but probably just to plead.

        These are likely state felonies, so she wont be able to avoid consequences. I’m betting her “givegpraysend” or whatever that shit is will pay the bills, though.

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          3·
          22 days ago

          Yeah, meaning she won’t even have to go on December 16th, a lawyer will show and give the plea not guilty, and they’ll set a day for likely February, discuss bs then, and ask if they want to go to a jury trial, prosecutor will have to set another date to summon witnesses and have officer that arrived on the scene. So my guess is a jury trial in May or June

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    163·
    23 days ago

    So was she disturbed or something? Like, if Alex Jones saw you wearing a Never Forget shirt in a grocery store, even he wouldn’t tap you on the shoulder to tell you 9/11 was a hoax, would he?There are expected forums for being a bigot; Panera Bread was a weird choice.