(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)
Fucked regardless but how fucked remains to be seen. Just as before, Trump will spend his presidency golfing, what really matters are his cabinet picks. Best case scenario is that just like 2016-2020 in-fighting and general incompetence make the administration a revolving door and keep the Christian Nationalist from realizing their darkest ambitions. Worst Case is that the Fascist have learned from their mistakes. I also think Trump either dying or being forced to step down (with a pardon of course) is a possibility that is on the table. Vance is a much more competent Fascist and this is definitely a worst case scenario.
Regardless, I think there are a few things that are guaranteed to happen:
- The dismantling of much of the Federal Government. Starve the Beast will finally come to fuition. The department of Eduction, the FDA, The EPA, ect will become toothless if not entirely abolished. De-regilation will bring us back to early 19th century levels of consumer protection and quality control. Read “The Jungle” to get an idea. Public Health is going to tank dramatically.
- The little safety net Americans have will be pulled out from under them. Workers will be entirely beholden to their employers. The price of most consumer goods will surge, bankruptcy from healthcare cost will skyrocket, and homelessness will become even more common. Homelessness will become completely criminalized and the % of the American population imprisoned will make today’s prison population look small.
- The police and surveillance state will be expanded dramatically with the intent of targeting undesirables. Immigrants will be deported, while Trans people and political dissidents will be labeled as sexual criminals and will be eliminated. As time marches on more groups will be targets for the state. People around you will simply disappear sometimes, victims of secret police.
- An increase in media censorship by morality police. Pornography will be banned, and using that vague label media critical of the regime or expressing ideas against the regimes interest will be censored.
- The US will pull out of NATO and pursue a policy of isolation. Authoritarian and expansionist regimes around the world will be allowed to pursue their interests unchecked.
- A general brain-drain as educated people with the means to do so flee to Canada or Europe. As time passes it is likely that emigration from America will be made more difficult by the state, effectively stranding people here who didn’t get out soon enough.
- We will completely miss the window to do anything to avoid the worst-case scenarios for climate change. So it’s not just America that’s fucked here.
Smoke em while you got em, it’s about to get rough for everyone. We are in the death throes of the Neo-Liberal world order. Buy a firearm and get a vpn. There’s never been a better time to go vegan and get in shape. Do what you can for the people you care about.
One of the biggest things is that the “deep state”, an innocuous thing turned into a convenient boogeyman by trump, will be quietly destroyed. This is the thing that actually keep your mail arriving, your food edible and your children’s toys not coated in lead. The “deep state”, meaning actual subject matter experts doing their jobs throughout entire government for years, regardless of current administration, are all going to be replaced by kid rock and vaping young republicans fresh from dropping out of their second semester in at The University of Southern Alabama State.
That’s who’s going to be the dude inspecting your meat for e.coli and signing off on the clinical trials for your perception meds - Gunner, Hunter and Ryder.
Really don’t think anyone is considering the reality of how deeply fucked we’re going to be as we’re all fixed fully on the front door for obvious signs of trouble (immediate societal decay), while this broken people fill the crawlspace with fertilizer and gasoline and kick in the backdoor with flamethrowers in hand.
We’re fucked, and we’re going to be focused on monitoring the wrong indicators of how fucked, until it is just beyond any repair within any of our lifetimes. You’re going to have FIVE fundamentally broken petite on the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. It’s over.
The orange shrivelled taco will probably keel over before his term ends. Just look at him, does this look like someone who might survive four more years?
What would happen afterwards with JD Vance at the helm I’m less clear.
Even if trump doesn’t do everything in project 2025, the supreme court picks mean we’re basically ultra fucked. Like, that’s best case.
America has always been a white supremacist slave colony.
It will still be fucking over the entire planet.
Between 2017 and 2021, things got pretty bad. Riots, wars, a plague, economic crash, and it ended with a mob breaking into the nation’s capital and trashing the place.
Can’t imagine a repeat will be better.
Wr can hope not to repeat the plague, but with Trump empowering anti-vaxxers, even that can’t be taken for granted.
Oh yeah, we’re absolutely getting a fucking measles epidemic before the end of his term.
That was with moderates and non-partisan civil servants playing interference on his worst ideas.
You remember everything that came out about how people would ignore his orders until he forgot?
None of those people will be there
At some point he needs to be able to physically enact proposals. Like, it’s one thing to say “Build a wall” and it’s another to get the land rights, hire the contractors, do the work, maintain it on competition, etc, etc.
You can go down to the border now and you’ll find this rink a dink bullshit that’s falling over in a light breeze. Then you’ve got spools full of razor wire tossed into the steadily shallower Rip Grande. People got paid tens of millions to put that garbage in the ground. And that was under an ostensibly competent administration.
I agree we’re going to get a ton of shit policy. Police violence under Trump is going to skyrocket. Vigilantee violence is going to jump. Border guard violence is going through the roof. But, like, is he going to build anything that can last? Or is he going to get the Americanized version of Neom? A bunch of scammers delivering invisible clothes to prance around in.
I guess we’ll find out.
Breathtakingly fucked. Wannabe dictator with a mandate from the dumbest mfers alive.
But take heart. The battle for the US is now a fight between the old guard Reaganite Republicans and the out&out Fascists. For the next 4 years at least the Dems are a complete non-factor. I hope the DNC is proud of their accomplishment.
All the worst possible things that could happen are now not just on the table but incredibly likely.
Also now he’s convinced that God specifically saved him from a bullet and chose him…
old guard Reaganite Republicans
So, the non-overt fascists?
Yes.
All they really care about is strengthening the oligarchy. Cutting taxes. Deregulation. If it benefits big business, they’re for it. And that’s where the conflict will arise. The loud and proud fascists want shit like mass deportations. The Reaganites know that’s bad news for a lot of businesses. Construction, agriculture, etc.
Some people are going to die-- mostly women. More people are going to have their lives turned upside-down, especially immigrants and ethnic and sexual minorities. Many immigrants, even legal ones, are going to be expelled. Corporations are going to run wild as regulation is abandoned. People are going to be bankrupted by predatory healthcare firms at a much higher rate than now. Every form of corporate pollution, adulteration, cheating and chicanery will be tolerated. The judiciary will be further corrupted. The US will not only withdraw from NATO, but will try to shut it down. Ukraine will be handed to Putin on a platter. Taiwan, the Baltics, Moldova and Poland will be left to fend for themselves. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza will transition even further to a full-scale genocide. Every aspect of government will be handed to corrupt, incompetent fanatics: kakistocracy all the way down. The impartiality of the civil service will be destroyed and the 19th-century spoils system reinstated. Social Security will be privatized and gutted. Obamacare will be eliminated. Congress will hold show trials of Trump’s perceived enemies. Terrorist acts and sabotage of critical infrastructure will massively increase, and the clampdowns that follow will be used to further degrade what few rights we still have.
But at least you won’t have Kamala’s pantsuit to complain about.
bro, i know all that stuff is bad, but have you heard her laugh? we made a solid choice.
(i hope i don’t need the /s, but Poe’s Law says i probably do)
All that, and you may have left out the most damaging of all… Trump will likely pull the US out of Copenhagen, leaving no chance of limiting temps below 2C let alone getting anywhere near 1.5C. The excess deaths from this will likely dwarf COVID.
Honestly, I can’t be bothered to worry about the climate 100 years from now when we’re going to be attacking (many more) Americans 100 days from now
Don’t get me wrong, Drumph’s second term will be bad for everyone. But the climate issue is going to be truly catastrophic on a scale even he and his cronies can’t match. There should be plenty of worry to go around.
I can’t be bothered to worry about the climate 100 years from now
I can because I care about my kids and potential grandchildren.
we’re going to be attacking (many more) Americans 100 days from now
I also have family members who will be impacted directly by that.
I can be concerned about stopping both of those negative outcomes. (And would be even if it didn’t directly impact my family)
100 years from now? Ha, you wish. With Trump in the White House we will speed run through all the tipping points that remain
Wait until he mobilizes the military into blue states to force compliance.
Why dont you guys start your own " stop the steal"?
Just say that 20 million illegals voted for trump, Kamala won and all this is just big election fraud.Just wondering.
Why doesn’t biden commit some “official acts”
He could. Totally legal thanks to the SCROTUS. But Dems are cowards by nature. They never would. Which is why this outcome was inevitable. If not now, later. We might actually end up being lucky it was Trump and not someone truly competent, but I doubt it.
I think Biden still believes that things can swing back in the midterms or next presidential election. I don’t think he realizes that this might have been the last election that was possible to win.
If he does something drastic, he’d probably hand even more popular support to the Republicans in general and to Trump in particular who would play victims as much as they could.
If he does nothing, it might be the end of democracy, not just in the US but in most of the world. But he will have “accepted defeat gracefully” and considering he won’t live to see the worst of it, I imagine that’s all that matters.
Edit: Just watched his speech. Nope, he thinks this is business as usual.
Probably less than he killed during the pandemic. Unless he uses nukes
The planner will never recover from his systematic sabotage of all efforts to save it. This is what scares me most. He lies through his teeth to make money, a lakey to soulless corporate mega entities and the entire human race will pay for this one man’s greed, long after he has died. Our kids will pay for his opulence and that to me is so sad.
Multiple regulatory bodies are going to get disbanded. The EPA is unlikely to survive, whole departments of the FDA are about to get gutted. Anything involving industrial safety is going to get its funding cut. Unconstitutional crackdowns on free and independent media is almost certain. Large scale damage to the functions of many government institutions can be expected. Massive economic damage due to reckless deregulation ( that’s even before they start putting tariffs on everything and wind up in multiple simultaneous trade wars). Funding for education and infrastructure maintenance will be reduced to allow tax cuts for the already wealthy. Massive loss of global influence and a massive gain in influence by hostile autocratic nations is also something you can expect.
I could go on and on but even if you were to assume they weren’t serious about project 2025 (if you haven’t read that you should) it’s real bad.
call me hopelessly naiive but just… why? the why is what i can never wrap my head around? why do they want to destroy the country? do they hate it? and like… why would people want to get rid of social security? do they just want people after 65 years old to… die? why?? i’m so sad…
Dictators only care about one thing: absolute power. They will destroy the country they take over to get that power and to keep it for as long as possible
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oh, you’re serious
Imagine basing your personality on a satire character and thinking you’re an independent thinker.
Read the comments and note the downvotes, sir. I’m definitely in the minority here. Therefore I would dare suggest it is in fact you who are the thoughtless parrot here. Governments are corrupt and incompetant organizations, and the bigger they become, the more corrupt and incompetant they are. If you truly are concerned that a single man can wreck such damage, you need to understand that is only possible because people like you have built up an organization that holds far too much power. The obvious solution is to shrink the scope of that organization so that a single maniac can’t do so much damage.
Big government is to blame for Trump having so much power. Learn, or be doomed to see history repeat itself.
Just because you say the sky is yellow, doesn’t mean you’re better for it.
If you shrink the government, corporations will just fill the power vacuum. It’s that simple.
Open your eyes. Corporations already heavily influence policy. Stop making that possible by decentralizing the power!
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If you’re a white Christian male you are the shit.
Anyone else is losing rights
Also Trump will declare martial law after 4 years with presidential immunity and every position of power stacked with handpicked loyalists.
Unless there is a revolution of some kind the US will probably go the path of Nazi Germany after Hitler achieved total control
white Christian males are also susceptible to measles and pollution and severe storms
Inb4 Trump’s Nazi base on Venus.
Who cares, it’s what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I’d be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did
Listen, I hate my country right now, and am disgusted by the people who live here…
That’s it, that’s the end of my sentence.
Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America “puffing up in smoke” would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.
Actually delusional
You must be a confused on what it is America does around here. Forget the public distractions of television and the political discourses.
Ask yourself a question, why isn’t Russia in Europe right now? Why are pirates not commandeering trade ships? Like it or not youre asking for your securities to be removed. Or wishing it.
The fact that Russia is struggling to sustain a war with a country with relatively weak military power, should indicate why your statements are delusional. That aside, the UK and France have nuclear power. Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Italy have nuclear weapons sharing statues.
If we take away morality, and the fact that no one wants to have ww3, what makes you think they can do any real damage to Europe?
And the pirates comment is hilarious, when Europe has the UK and France.
You greatly overestimate what the USA does for Europe, and the impact then disappearing would have on the continent, across the entire ocean from them
Lmao these are their publicly stated goals, take your head out of the sand
The Rise of Trudeau
Lol wut? Is this a meme, or am I about to go down a rabbit hole?
Nah i was trying to make a jokes about the US leaving a vacuum
Lmao Texas, Florida and Arizona wouldn’t be able to handle the idea of that.
“UNITED STATES OF CANADA”
America was actually going to annex Canada at some point a while back too.
The Fifth Risk is a very good read for anyone who might be interested in a finer grained look into the lesser-known functions of our government 👍
We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can’t just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that’s unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he’ll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.
Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone’s guess, but it’ll at least be restrained by what’s realistically possible.
My so called blue state of California just voted against minimum wage increase, against rent control, against banning slavery, and for increasing the war on drugs. At least this time we narrowly voted to approve gay marriage (unlike last time where we banned it)
Federal laws trump state laws every time, those blue states will be just as shit as the red states in no time
The Federal government CAN just barge in. We specifically designed the structure that way. Federal supercedes state.
He will absolutely move the military into a blue state to force compliance. This is how the next civil war will start. Red Force and blue resistance.
I’d love be as optimistic as you but unless Trump changes his mind the US will get a brainwormed fanatical anti-vaccier in charge of deciding which vaccines are safe to use. Even if the states don’t cooperate with trump’s agenda there are so many long standing federal institutions which till now you’ve never needed to think about that are about to get wrecked.
And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)
Realistically people should start to self sort and leftists should start to purchase and train with guns if they don’t have them for their family’s protection.
Join us in the PNW! We have legal weed!
And what about project 2025. That total teeheee not our plan teeheee thing …
Slightly worse than with Harris. But the downward trend would never stop.
