• OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn’t have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It’s that people don’t vote

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      2 hours ago

      Plus the system is rigged to count rural (and thus usually more conservative) votes more, so sane people have to turn out in greater numbers to keep sociopaths out of the white house

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        1 hour ago

        Then the people whose votes don’t matter electorally decide that the popular vote isn’t relevant, so they don’t bother.

        Hey guys! If Kamala wins the popular vote by >70% but loses the election, there will be riots. There could be a revolution. And she has the numbers to do that if you guys could just vote.

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      2 hours ago

      I don’t know. There’s a surprising amount of stupid people here. They live in near poverty and are easily manipulated into hating others as the reason for their miserable lives. It’s really that simple in my opinion. Yes there are lots of people who don’t vote, but I’m not sure that it would change the current split if they all did vote. We need more and better education.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s that people don’t vote

      Yes but also no: it’s mostly that many people either CAN’T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.

      Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you’ll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.

      Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won’t have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.

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        59 minutes ago

        If the Dems won every election on center left policies, the only option left to the Rs would be to do another party switch and go further left. That’s how we get an actual left wing party.

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          46 minutes ago

          What?!? You mean we can’t virtue signal about how the Democrats have to earn our vote, not vote, and expect the party to move away from the side that actually votes?!?!?!?!?

          I get so sick of fake leftists promoting behaviors that actively go against their stated goals. I guess they’re not all fake, some of them are just psycho accelerationists who would rather get ‘dictator on day one’ than let the Democrats have power because then they might think they won’t go left if they win (and won’t admit they will just keep going right like they’ve done for over half a century when they lose).

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      7 hours ago

      That doesn’t change anything, tbh.

      Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.

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      7 hours ago

      Easy to say when you live somewhere that voting is easy.

      You honestly think Jim Crow restrictions on voting ended? The Supreme Court itself struck down the Voting Rights Act, and now you can have a single polling station for a county.

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      6 hours ago

      People that don’t bother to vote are as bad as Trump supporters. The true foundation of every autocratic regime is not fear, it’s not their real supporters, it’s people that don’t care what happens as long as it’s not happening to them (yet).