Militant group is ‘waging an all-out war against us’, says one Kabul resident in response to the bizarre rule

In a rambling voice message on Monday, the country’s minister for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice announced the bizarre new restriction on women’s behaviour.

    • FarFarAway@startrek.websiteEnglish
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      7 days ago

      I was listening my local radio station and they had a story about how women were banned from speaking in public. One of the guest speakers (mostly, women from Afghanistan) gave a history of how it became like this.

      There were freedom fighters, or Mujahideen, which were trained in jihad against the Soviets. And part of that indoctrination involved physical separation between males and females, including family members, of the boys and men that later became the Taliban. And part of that indoctrination involved the mullahs, or teachers in those seminaries, teaching or indoctrinating the students, all males, that females are the source of temptation to sinful acts.

      There’s more to it in the story / transcript, but that was the basic premise.

      • shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
        346·
        7 days ago

        Username checks out. Still a dumb take that I would expect somewhere in atheistmemes not in a serious community talking about the gender apartheid that a hardcore religious conservative group has imposed. And now it will confuse you that I’m also criticizing them, because who wouldn’t criticize the fucking Taliban, but I’m so tired of this low quality „religion bad“ content when the actual problem is REALLY shitty people.

        Remember the Soviets, remember the Nazis, remember Mao? Those guys hated religion and have caused the deaths of literally hundreds of millions. So you wanna criticize religion, go ahead, but please for the sake of the whole community do it like an adult, not like a 14 year old in atheistmemes.

        • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          222·
          7 days ago

          I didn’t say that religion is bad. I said “a religion … treats women like property.” Nobody says that about Jainism. You can’t even say that about satanism. Some religions treat women badly, and others don’t.

          • shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
            327·
            7 days ago

            Yeah look I’m not going to get into pointless discussions about religions that just going to end up like talking about football teams. You wanna criticize religion as a concept feel free to, but you’ll always end up sounding like you’re 12 when you’re painting with such a broad brush over something like 1.5 billion people. You may not notice in this circle jerk or even the circle jerk that is liberal media but people who tend to have strong simplified opinions on one topic usually have them about others as well. I hope you will experience that the world is more complicated than that and hopefully it will make you think.

              • shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
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                6 days ago

                Dog whistle for what? For not liking that it’s ridiculous what kind of shit you can say when it’s about those people? The shit people say nowadays about Muslims and Islam is the same shit they said a 100 years ago about Jews and it was and still is liberal media who’s carrying this into the middle of society, not some MAGA Qanon looney toons who live in their own world anyway.

                I’m not surprised people here are confused and that’s exactly what I’m criticizing and what makes me being downvoted to oblivion, some topics people aren’t capable of understanding nuance and this is one of them.

          • shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
            111·
            7 days ago

            So personality cult and the extremism resulting from it could be the actual problem? I get the point of criticizing the adverse effects that organized religion can have, but especially when it comes to that religion the quality of comments usually goes to elementary school level and it’s not because there’s anything special about it except that you can get into a nice circlejerk because criticizing Islam nowadays is as accepted as it was to criticize Judaism 100 years ago. So again, I’m not saying you can’t criticize religion but for the love of it bring some substance to your argument because as of now I don’t see how this would be any contribution whatsoever to a very serious and disturbing development in Afghanistan.

        • moriquende@lemmy.world
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          7 days ago

          Does the religion believe in the 72 virgins when you die? Yes. Does the religion prescribe treating women like property? Yes.

          Everything they said is true, not sure why you’re getting triggered?