I mean, it used to be “go outside” to feel better, to treat depression, etc…
Bruh how the fuck am I supposed relax going outside? It would actually make me feel more anxious. I’d have to constantly scan for possible ICE agents like do a full 360 visual scan of the area every 30 seconds.
So is this just life for the next 4 years (at the minimum)? Do I just stay home unless for essential stuff? Just spend all the freetime on the internet because I’m too scared to go outside?
I’m a naturalized citizen, but with the denaturalization talks, this is so anxiety inducing. Citizens born outside of the country have the burden of proof apparantly. I kinda didn’t renew passport, I have a picture of my citizenship document on my phone, not sure that’s any good or fascists are just gonna fascist and try to throw me in cecot.
My neighbors are still going about lime this is norma, playing music and having parties. (They are hispanic btw)
How do people just be so chill about all this? Am I overreacting? Are they underreacting? What even is the healthy about of fear to have?
I have dogs. They need walkies. Usually on grass. 🤷♂️
being gay and autistic? no. I go out to work, get food, and basically nothing else. I would’ve liked to go to pride, but I decided it was too dangerous, living in a reasonably major city, that some fuck might feel emboldened by everything else to start targeting gay people. I would’ve liked to celebrate July 4th, as well, but I’m not feeling very patriotic.
mostly just waiting to die at this point tbh – gay, autistic, or leftist; there are no shortage of reasons they’d love to target me and I have no means to leave. Nothing to do but wait.
I try to, but I am really confused with my place. I live in a small town that is one of the more remote places of the US that is on an interstate (maybe a confliction), my neighbors on one side are Latino, and on the other Sikh, and neither one has had an observable change since January. I think that most of these folks believe they are safe here, and maybe that is true, but nobody wants to talk about it. The independence day stuff was muted, but it’s really dry here so that is normal. Everyone respected that. Still plenty of music and gatherings and what not. But most folks here are conservative, even those who are vocal about their dislike of Trump.
So, to answer your question, I touch grass daily. I mean, this is bad. I can’t get other people onboard, hey still seem to feel that it is affecting “others.” I work for the federal government, and they say things like “they don’t mean you” and I think, they mean us.
Personally, I know ICE is out there. But this is a very big country and even in places in California where I go which are high in Hispanic populations, I as a white male haven’t noticed them and I’ve been kind of looking.
I believe that the more you stay inside and engage with the news and with the internet you get a very specific message that is very scary. But going outside, it’s a different experience.
It’s bad out there, and I’m afraid it’s getting worse. But staying inside isn’t going to be good for your mental health. Get outside and get a bigger picture of everything in your neighborhood. See how what your imagining and what’s actually happening differ and what are the same.
Spend time with your neighbors and build a community; together you will be stronger to resist ICE.
I do, yes. But I worry about the not “white” and not native born people of my family and my city. Have seen one incident with unmarked cars but don’t know if it was a drug bust (it looked like one) or ICE.
Some of the houses in my neighborhood are full of Mexicans, and they used to be outside all the time to say “buenas tardes” and wave but no more, and the house across the street was getting a new metal roof, and it’s been halfway done for weeks, not sure what’s going on with that, but think it’s related, the roofing companies use a lot of immigrants in their crews.
IMO - it is better in a way to act normally, that normal life is what we are fighting for. Renew your passport, and keep documents handy but don’t let them cow you into submission. You worked to become a citizen, that’s more than I did by just being born here.
You worked to become a citizen, that’s more than I did by just being born here.
I technically got it derived from my US Citizen mother when she naturalized, but its usually too much to explain to its easier to just use the term “naturalized”, because at the end of the day, its revokable, and thus its scary times.
But yea, I had to learn English and felt like an outcast during the first few years of school. I did eventually learned to understand English on the same level as those born here. But then I think those first few years might’ve caused some PTSD so I kinda just remained an introvert.
I mean its kinda fucked how that if they revoke my mother’s citizenship, I lose mine as well. Like??? That’s like imprisoning a child because the mother is accused of doing something bad.
It’s frankly uncanny. This phase of things…
Touch grass? Yes easily, have my morning garden routine, play with the cats, take a photo here and there…
Myself, I’m armed, I expect this civil war to eventually go ‘hot’. I also think the left will (initially) get decimated because nobody is taking this seriously as a war.
However,
Here in the rural sticks, the realities don’t align. The fourth felt like a typical day in Mayberry. You see no evidence of the strife, ICE, any of it. -And you DEFINITELY don’t want to be some idiot lone-wolf starting something…
I’m a little reluctant to talk about our hispanic populace. Just in that you can really see the rift between those families that voted trump (and for some ungodly reason think they are safe) versus those that have gotten real quiet. It’s a brooding tension, that hasn’t erupted. But largely they act like nothing is happening
As things are going, the facade will break eventually. But hell yes, I take in these peaceful moments unlike ever before.
Here in the rural sticks, the realities don’t align. The fourth felt like a typical day in Mayberry. You see no evidence of the strife, ICE, any of it.
I’m fairly confident that’s intentional. I live in a rural CA mountain area, but we are close enough that we hear what’s going on. There have been small isolated instances here in our town, but no major raids that iI know of. My wife is 4th gen Mexican American, and her family back in LA is quite on edge. You don’t have to go far to find someone who is missing a friend/family/neighbor/etc. Some of whom are Americans. Yet I talk to one of my best friends that’s in the sticks of northern Colorado, nothing is happening up there.
My point here is that these raids are targeting blue cities/areas, and by leaving the mostly red strongholds alone, Fox et al can perpetuate that myth that everything is above board, and resistance is coming from the radical left. I’m fairly certain the administration would invite the incitation of civil unrest if only invoke martial law and the insurrection act, begin the “cleansing,” and suspend elections indefinitely. The only people I’ve met who would like to begin shooting are the gravy seal types. No one else wants this shit.
I expect this civil war to eventually go ‘hot’. I also think the left will (initially) get decimated because nobody is taking this seriously as a war.
More likely because they’re ill-equipped for war. The people that are equipped are celebrating the change.
Depending on if the democratic governors grow a spine and depending on who’s authority does the national guard people recognize.
I do all the same things I’ve always done; walk the dogs, run errands as needed, go out for dinner once a week etc.
Though now I do all those things armed.
For now the answer depends on your skin color and whether you wear non conforming clothing.
The answer, as always, is a strong local community for resilience. But it’s damn hard to start that late.
I’m in a conservative area where everyone has guns, so no ICE around here yet, but I have my eyes open as my wife is a brown, legal immigrant. Still, I’m armed everywhere I go, particularly with her, and that fucking sucks as I would formerly only carry in strange places. I now have a gun within reach everywhere in my house.
Other than ICE, I’m afraid Trump’s win and actions have emboldened the most radical racists. Plenty of people around here seem to think she’s Mexican. LOL, Filipinos are indeed Asian Mexicans!
She wants to take a trip home, but I’m scared shitless of getting back in. She’s had plenty of friends who have made the trip in the past few months and is utterly unafraid. OTOH, she’s woefully ignorant about American politics, just now figuring out that Trump is an “evil man”. Also, she thinks her legal status will protect her.
Yall really think the media is an accurate representation of everyday life? It’s not
I mean, the thing is, at least with crime, you can still hope that the law enforment isn’t having a bad day and totally being shitty and maybe have a chance of stopping the crime.
But when law enforcement becomes the criminal, who the fuck do you go to? That’s what’s scary, there is no recourse if it happens.
You can shoot a criminal in self-defence and be fine, but if that criminal is an ICE agent, you’re gonna have a bad time trying to defend yourself in a court that’s stacked against you, if you don’t get “suicided” with 2 bullets in the back of your head, that is.
This is unprecedented. Idk how often it happens, but the fact that illegal arrests are on the rise is not really gonna put my mind to rest. It’s only rare until it happens to you, and they just passed the biggest budget ever.
Unprecedented.
You just have to go all the way outside.
I’ve been stopped at in-state border crossings since 2016. Yes, it worries me enough that I literally moved so I wouldn’t have to cross the checkpoint regularly.
I don’t fear going outside, but I certainly wouldn’t say I’m living my best life in this dark era. Even pre-colonial citizens have to prove ourselves, but really… That’s not so new. The new wrinkle is that more anglos used to be fine with victimizing non-anglos, so I’m sort of optimistic
I do. Maybe I’ll die, or be imprisoned for life, but fuck 'em, I’m going to be me up until I cannot anymore.
The probability of the worst happening likely depends on where you live, how passing you look from a distance, and so on, so to be clear I absolutely do not disparage someone else’s choice to do otherwise.
Also, there’s at least a chance that this all won’t simply blow over 4 years from now. Sorry. I only mention it since it is relevant to my decision to say fuck it we ball.
The partying is surely a choice, bc what else can be done about any of it? So be safe, but also enjoy life when and where you can.
First, I don’t mean to minimize the severity of what’s happening in this country, which is awful and dangerous and we all should work to resist in any way we can.
But, objectively, the risk to citizens right now is extremely low. Now that could change, and I don’t blame you for being fearful. But I don’t think we’re yet in a situation where you should fear going outside.
Also, touching grass is a bit vague but if you are going out and building bonds with your neighbors and community, I think that’s actually a form of self defense. Those are the people who may be able to help support or protect you if and when things get worse and the danger expands to you.
So definitely don’t stop doing that. That’s what the regime wants. A terrified populace where everyone is hiding indoors and too scared to work together is a much stronger position for them than one where we support one another and actively resist what they’re doing together.
I use my passport card instead of my driver’s license as my my ID now. I am very mixed race including Dutch, French, Italian, Irish Portuguese, African-American (slaves from Louisiana plantations) and Native American (15%). Louisiana was a melting pot. My look is peculiar enough that I have been confused for Arab, Greek (general Mediterranean when traveling in Europe) and depending on which part of the USA I am thought of Cuban, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Brazilian, etc. So even though the only family member in my bloodline to immigrate after the declaration of independence was an Irish man who landed stateside in the 1800’s, I still feel like I need to carry my passport because I popped out a shade darker than my cousins.
