I just got permanently banned from a community for making a single harmless remark on a single post that was right there in the main feed. It’s not a community I’m super active in so it’s not like devastating, but it is annoying

If your precious little community is full of so many delicate sensitive people who can’t even be reminded that another viewpoint even exists, then you should really protect them by defederating and having everyone join your private website

The mod has literally removed like 75% of the comments and banned everyone lol

I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I’m in view all

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    I defended @beaver@lemmy.ca when a comment of theirs was reported.

    I was just given context on this. Looking at their comments in that light, I have decided to ban them from !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world for all their bad faith arguments. Banning people for “bad faith” voting is bullshit. Coming here to defend that horrible action will not be tolerated.

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      Thank you and good riddance to @beaver@lemmy.ca, when you look at the amount of subs she is modding, it’s quite worrying. It makes me wonder if she does anything else with her time.

  • Sir Arthur V Quackington@lemmy.world
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    I never care about these posts unless you share what you posted.

    Too Many times the “it was just a little joke bro” turns out they called someone’s dog the N word or something and understand why they got banned.

    “What it wasn’t like I said it about a person, just a ***** dog”

    So, have fun OP, but making this post makes me doubt you more than them if you’re not going to recount any details at all.

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    I got banned for downvoting. Kind of hard to take people seriously when they’re so sensitive to criticism that the equivalent of a thumbs down emoji gets you banned.

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      Pretty sure I just got banned from c/vegan because I downvoted “wrong”. Haven’t interacted in any other way, so not sure what else it could be. Also recently got banned from c/imageai for downvoting “too much”? This is a weird trend that seems like a bad path for Lemmy to go down if it’s starting to become the norm.

      *Also, what’s up with not being able to block a community you’re banned from? They don’t want you there but you’re forced to view their content? That makes no sense.

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        I see a lot of comments about a particular vegan community. Sounds like people here need something like c/chillVegans where you don’t get kicked out unless you’re a total menace.

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            If the vegans there can’t take a joke, they aren’t very chill. However, being intentionally offensive and rude shouldn’t be tolerated, even if it’s a chill place.

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              Pretend that it’s any other earnestly held belief. I wouldn’t expect a chill Catholic community to be down with cannibalism jokes, I’d just expect them not to engage in purity tests or call non-Christians heathens. I’d expect that a chill Hindu community would remove “Holy cow!” comments, but they probably wouldn’t remove people for admitting they eat chicken or ban non-Hindus.

              I would expect a chill vegan community not to remove comments from people who eat meat or to call omnivores “bloodmouths,” but jokes like “how do you spot a vegan?” or “I’m going to eat twice as much meat tonight to make up for you” would probably still get removed. I get that the second one seems harsh, but it’s a system of ethics for vegans, so it isn’t a joking matter for them.

              Plus, all four of those jokes are way, way overdone.

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              Feel free, based on this comment section, we’d all appreciate it.

              I don’t personally want to sort through that gore, which is a pretty common attitude for vegans. I suspect that’s why there aren’t more general spaces for chill vegans.

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    Seriously these mods ban you for literally nothing. I think they’re worse on here than they ever were on Reddit. Bunch of fucking children I swear to God.

    edit Oh hey now I’m banned from c/vegan too. I wasn’t even talking about them. They’re even worse I guess.

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        Oohh let’s try an experiment. I have never been to c/vegan even though my stepson and his wife are vegan so I guess I might have a reason to … sorta.

        Anyway here goes. … Hey c/vegan, the one mod over there is a completely douchebag and should just stop being a right cunt. Please ban me until they fuck off.

        How do you find out if your banned?

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    If you need to be in control of community policies then go start one so that you can be in charge of it.

    Otherwise have a nice day!

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    So, like, if I organize a block party where everyone’s invited, and someone drops a deuce in the punch bowl, I shouldn’t ask them to leave because I should have had a discrete guest list?

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      Yeah, I don’t really get it either.

      You don’t have to comment on everything you see. Seems more logical to focus on a few communities you know, and pay more attention when you browse All.

      Even if you comment, it’s okay to be banned. Move on. Why make a post to complain about it if you don’t care?

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      I’d say it’s more like I went to a party where the host invited the entire block but only wants people there wearing funny hats, but didn’t tell anyone they had to wear a funny hat and then called the police to complain that their house is full of people who aren’t wearing funny hats.

      I’d take the ban without question if I was acting like an ass on there, but all I did was make a comment that didn’t specifically agree with them that everyone who isn’t vegan is apparently a horrible person who persecutes vegans constantly lol

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        but didn’t tell anyone they had to wear a funny hat

        FYI, I don’t know the specific case here, just being generic.

        The rules are right there in the sidebar in pretty much all clients, though it varies on mobile depending on app/web UI. Most communities here have rules. Society has rules. Ignorance of those rules, whether accidental or willful, is never a valid excuse for breaking them. “I’m sorry, officer, I didn’t know I couldn’t do that” isn’t a valid legal strategy.

        To return to the analogy: it would be like showing up to the event without a funny hat despite the invitation clearly stating that a funny hat is required and then being asked to leave. It’s on the attendee to read the details on the invitation and be aware of any requirements.

        “Calling the police” would be more akin to escalating to a site admin to have you banned for that which, I agree, would be extreme unless the person decided to be an ass and make a scene on the way out (not throwing shade with that, just using an actual party example I’ve had to deal with).

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    Upvoted as unpopular. I don’t know if I agree with this or not (on general grounds), it’s extremely complicated.

    In theory it’s completely OK to have a community for a restricted but non-private demographic, and often it’s how you avoid a crowd of “excuuuuse me, I’m going to debate the same stale points over and over, and I expect you to waste your time with me”.

    In practice we know that there’s a high chance that the community evolves into an echo chamber, of the dumbest type - that claps to convenient idiocy, but ridicules inconvenient truth.

    If it’s sensible to have a community like this, as well as the outcome of having it like this, depends mostly on the sanity of whoever is in charge of the comm.

    [Edited for subtle rewording. No change on discourse.]

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    They are echo bunkers. They only want comments and identity validating upvotes that whole throatedly support the orthodoxy of the echo bunker but they want to spread their extremist message by commenting on and brigading posts that they don’t like in other communities to try to bully, shame, and harass others into adopting their extremist quasi-religion and join their echo bunker.

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      ☝️what this person said. Sums uo entire “culture”

      Tankies going around in pacts copy pasting same fucking shiti arguments and links with a bridgade for upvotes and downvotes.

      News and politics subs same thing.

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    I moderated a left wing community at one point, so by your logic I should allow Liberals to flood the community until its no longer left wing? Im not saying Liberals aren’t allowed but its stated clearly in the sidebar that they shouldn’t talk over the intended audience (left wingers).

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    Not to be all “not like the other girls” about veganism, but I kind of hate the general vegan communities. They always end up turning into a who can hate meat eaters the most contest and the less extreme members usually leave. It’s also really frustrating because the goal should be to get more people eating plant based, and their methods just push people away. Yeah, of course I believe people should stop eating meat, and I struggle to understand how someone can acknowledge the cruelty of factory farming and turn around and eat a burger, but shouting them down isn’t accomplishing anything. I’m not going to engage with the people who show up just to talk shit, but I’m down to talk to anyone actually open to a conversation.

    That said, there are a lot of people who think it’s suuuuper funny to seek out vegan communities to make the same tired ass comments that lead to vegans becoming angrier and more insular, so I really don’t want to make this a Vegans Bad comment. I get the desire to tell people to fuck off. It’s exhausting to try to talk about a news article and be constantly drowned out by trolls.

    OP, I don’t know what your comment said, but you know whether or not you were engaging in good faith. Maybe you deserved the ban, maybe not. I just think maybe sometimes we could all stand to keep scrolling.

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    We all know it’s the vegan community. I got banned for simply voting on comments.

    Now they’re also spamming posts to fill up everyone’s feeds.

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      Same here lmfao, the utter sensitivity.

      Edit: Also, it’s mostly that one power-mod spamming vitriolic posts. I just blocked them and my feed is a lot nicer. Dude’s checking the database and just banning everyone who downvotes him.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        Is that something regular moderators can do…?

        Not that I particularly care, but I moderate three communities on here and none of the tools available to me show who downvoted what. Exposing that type of info with that type of granularity feels like a bad idea to me; the sort of thing that is just begging to invite some sort of abuse.

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          Yep, I mean you can see for yourself, I’ve never posted anything about veganism nor have I posted on the sub, and I was banned for “anti vegan sentiment” or something, I don’t feel like looking back at their rules lol.

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            Their rules have the word “carnist” in them, so that should show you how seriously to take them.

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              It’s a real word, even if it’s a relative neologism, so I’m not sure why you have the scare quotes around it. In fact, the term has been in use for over t20 years, so, IDK man, maybe accept it. Implying that it’s not a real word because you don’t like it–versus because it’s used as a slur to other people–kinda feels like Musk’s complaints about cisgender.

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    Vegans will talk mad shit and then get so mad when their thread reaches nonvegan feeds.

    Can’t stand the heat, which is why they eat salad.

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    woke nazis along side the conservative ones.

    same shit different pile and those in the middle are stuck.