• humble peat digger@lemm.eeOP
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    See. If he’s just wanting to fire people out of spite - I don’t care.

    But I feel he may want to stuff generals with his hires to then just invoke a martial law and execute a coup.

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      That’s absolutely what he’s trying to do. My point is that the US military doesn’t operate like Toys-R-Us or Twitter or whatever. You can’t just fire the boss of the division, bring in a new guy who says we’re going to go shoot some protestors now, and have all the battalion commanders under them say, “Oh, okay, that’s weird but w/e.”

      At least, I hope not. I’m pretty sure though. It’s not simple like Trump is thinking, and he doesn’t have the level of understanding to pull it off and make it work.

      Remember this? Listen to them cheering:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUosuzrY8gg

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          You’re still assuming a lot, namely that friendly faces replace the fired ones. And that lower echelons obey orders of a captured higher echelon.

          The military is really very resistant to this kind of thing. We have leadership right down to 4 person teams.

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              I’m not saying they can’t fuck up a lot of things. But at a certain point there’s too many promotions to control. This has always been an Authoritarian problem, and is why you see dictators with “Republican Guards”. Those units get all the good equipment, training, and are highly controlled for loyalty.

              Creating something like that takes years though. And will transparently be the end of any claim to be the better party for our military. So in 2026/28 elections will be much harder.

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        Also I cant imagine the military higher ups are particularly fond of Trump anyways, they could very well use this action as a casus belli to trigger a civil war. Which would just be a repeat of the last one more or less. Really that one would come down to how stupid Trump and Co are.

        Edit: I just remembered 2025 calls for getting rid of Veterans Affairs, so not only do the big wigs probably hate Trump the rank and file have plenty of reasons too.

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          It’s also relevant that 100% of the troops that are permitted to operate inside the US are under the control of the individual states. You could say that Trump can just install loyalists and deploy the real federal army inside the US, but I cannot possibly imagine that they would obey orders to fight domestically against the National Guard.

          The founders of the US did some things wrong, but they also had some pretty solid foresight about some things.

          Edit: I can’t type

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            The national guard previously state militia system is honestly kinda brilliant, in how it allows some amount of military counter actions by the states themselves. I suspect it is based off of how some Italian city states would have local semi-professional militaries for local defense while relying on mercenaries for external actions.