A West Valley farm and one of the largest egg producers in the U.S. confirmed on Friday that it has lost nearly its entire chicken population in Arizona due to bird flu and will be forced to reduce staff.
People are weirdly, emotionally, invested in meat. Like it’s part of their identity.
I enjoy the taste of meat but I recognize it’s not good for the environment or the animals. So I avoid eating meat. It’s not a big deal. But for some people they act like you’re going to eat them and bury their bones in an unmarked grave.
Meat replacement to me is like Beyond or Impossible. Those are the most meat like, taste like vs tofu or soy or black bean etc… Those are the options that if they were priced the same or less, at least I would buy without a 2nd guess, and Id addume more people wiuld too. I have yet to find a tofu or soy or whatever alt style that really makes me 2nd guess if I’m eating meat or not.
Seitan or TVP are probably better as a ground beef substitute and also fairly cheap… but that only really works for heavily seasoned applications like tacos or bolognese.
Look, we can debate meat vs vegan till we all go blue in the face. If you want humans to get off using real meat, we need an alternative that tastes like meat and costs the same/less. It’s as simple as that.
This makes an excellent argument for pursuing lab-grown meat. I do just fine on plant-based meat alternatives and traditional plant-based proteins (e.g. beans). But some people have allergies or other conditions that make this more difficult.
I have IBS, GERD, anemia, & food allergies. I’ve seen medical professionals over the years and their recommendation is to eat anything & everything I can that won’t make me sick. I pretty much eat the same thing nearly everyday & most vegan protein sources make me sick.
That sucks and is a pretty common “gotcha” to justify the continued mistreatment and murder of animals. Lucky for you you were born the right kind of animal whose comfort and life in general somehow out weighs your dinner’s.
I really wish all able countries would move away from meat. The cruelty we inflict on these poor animals is absolutely insane.
People are weirdly, emotionally, invested in meat. Like it’s part of their identity.
I enjoy the taste of meat but I recognize it’s not good for the environment or the animals. So I avoid eating meat. It’s not a big deal. But for some people they act like you’re going to eat them and bury their bones in an unmarked grave.
Hopefully, with the advances that have been coming along in lab grown, we will.
It’ll be a hard fight against the lobbys though.
Very hard to fight the lobbies. It’s already illegal to sell lab grown meat in Florida and Alabama and I’m not even sure anyone is selling it to consumers yet.
Yeah you’re right about that. Farms like the one in the article have far too much influence.
Until we subsidize meat replacement options and get the price AT LEAST equal to regular meat, it just won’t happen.
Don’t know in the US, but in Canada I buy meat on sale when it hits the same price as tofu so I don’t get what you mean…
Meat replacement to me is like Beyond or Impossible. Those are the most meat like, taste like vs tofu or soy or black bean etc… Those are the options that if they were priced the same or less, at least I would buy without a 2nd guess, and Id addume more people wiuld too. I have yet to find a tofu or soy or whatever alt style that really makes me 2nd guess if I’m eating meat or not.
Depends what you’re using it for, “ground” your tofu by hand and use it instead of ground beef in a bolognese and honestly you won’t miss the beef
Seitan or TVP are probably better as a ground beef substitute and also fairly cheap… but that only really works for heavily seasoned applications like tacos or bolognese.
Humans don’t need meat or meat substitutes though.
Look, we can debate meat vs vegan till we all go blue in the face. If you want humans to get off using real meat, we need an alternative that tastes like meat and costs the same/less. It’s as simple as that.
100% agreed. Ethics won’t win this war. It’s all about cost and convenience. Most people are looking at their personal bottom line.
Yes, some of us do. Not everyone’s body is made to thrive on a vegan diet. Many of us are medically unable to not eat meat.
This makes an excellent argument for pursuing lab-grown meat. I do just fine on plant-based meat alternatives and traditional plant-based proteins (e.g. beans). But some people have allergies or other conditions that make this more difficult.
I’m all for lab grown meat as well and hope it’s affordable & safe within my lifetime.
Interesting. What sort of medical conditions require eating meat?
I have IBS, GERD, anemia, & food allergies. I’ve seen medical professionals over the years and their recommendation is to eat anything & everything I can that won’t make me sick. I pretty much eat the same thing nearly everyday & most vegan protein sources make me sick.
That sucks and is a pretty common “gotcha” to justify the continued mistreatment and murder of animals. Lucky for you you were born the right kind of animal whose comfort and life in general somehow out weighs your dinner’s.
Probably ones that need protein
From a nutrients stand point you can get all that from non meat sources.
What has protein in it, other than nuts and beans?
Why are nuts and beans disqualified from being protein sources?
I’ll take the meat if they can get rid of the slavery…