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    5 months ago

    Such a popcorn moment, honestly. I wonder where they’ll go to once Red Note blocks US Americans. They might be able to go back to tick tock if the US backpedals, but if not… is pixelfed or whatever fediverse alternative exists really ready to absorb 700M accounts?

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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      Apparently the [?head ?CEO ?Mayor McCheese] of TikTok is attending the inauguration. Which means that they’ve already bribed Trump and the ban will be reversed pretty much immediately.

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    After interacting with them, it’s pretty clear we’re the trailer park. They seem to know more about our history than most Americans do.

    But we don’t exactly prioritize education here. Fuck taxes amirite?

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      Well, there are definitely parts of Chinese history Americans know more about.

      Also, what “we”? The Americans using short form media aren’t exactly the brightest examples in the first place.

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        I’m not sure. While it’s not for me, I know some rather bright individuals that enjoy the format.

        I mostly hate that it’s such an advertising industry.

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        well yeah, china has like 1000x more history than america does, i don’t think anyone can know all of documented chinese history

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        What makes you say that? From my recent experiences with short form media I’d say there are plenty of bright people involved. There’s tons of actual good STEM/Maker/DIY/Educational/History content and the medium lends itself well to quick community building

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        There are Americans in this very thread who think “the CCP” is real.

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      The irony being that TikTok is specifically designed to dumb down Americans. 🤣

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    Those will stay rumors. Thinking the CCP will wall off Americans shows a complete lack of understanding China. Since as the article noted, if you don’t follow the rules you’ll be banned, there’s no way the government will try to wall off anyone. Hell, China didn’t even want to ban Google. They asked Google to put in the rules that rednote has. Google refused, the firewall blocks Google until they abide by the rules. If Google ever just follows the rules like Microsoft, they’re more than welcome to come back. If there’s any segregation it will be because the server’s are overwhelmed.

    *Edit. Btw that’s how bing and linkedin became huge in China until the Chinese found better Chinese alternatives. They never got banned, they got replaced.

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        That’s the funny part. As they’re discovering with RedNote, Tik Tok wasn’t censored by China, that’s why they had 2, one for China and one for the world which would not follow the same censors. It actually was it’s own entity and did it’s own thing. That was a company decision because they thought it would make more money, and they were right.

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          Unless you mention Tiananmen Square.

          I don’t like America, but I can still mentioned Kent State shootings.

          Where did Naomi Wu go after revealing that Chinese keyboard apps were keylogging? She was very careful to only accuse the company and not the party, but still got censored. Not everyone online has goldfish memory.

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      The problem with China is really the government. Democracy is a concept that the CCP really doesn’t like.

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        Am I the only one seeing the irony here? Is paying lip service to democracy enough? Legal gerrymandering, electoral college, voter suppression…

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        To be fair, though: The US government isn’t really all that keen on democracy, either.

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          They have that newfangled word for it now. What was it? Olymarkie? Oldmalarkie? Oh, what was it…

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        Me when my government bans a historically popular app: those Chinese ain’t democratic like us!

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          I 100% agree. The fact that congress can mandate censorship is incredibly problematic. Hopefully it gets shot down by the supreme court.

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            If you’re willing to give the us government even a shred of forgiveness despite constantly proving they’re completely undemocratic, you should look into how Chinese governance actually works and see why the CPC has such high approval ratings from the population.

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      That sounds nice!

      They actually prioritize socializing over just putting out random shit for views & engagement?

      I’d love to talk to folks with different cultures and share stuff we find neat!

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      That’s actually a really good idea. And LLMs are excellent at machine translation, it’s one of their underutilized killer apps. They’re a little better at going to English than from English or between two non-English languages, just because so much of the corpus is English, but they’re easily enough that it could be automated as a working solution.

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    You know the other night I got high and thought. “I wander what other countries learn in grade school. How their propaganda is different from ours” and now all this is going on.

    It’s wild how we can connect with people from across the world but our world leaders try their hardest to make sure we don’t.

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    Good. Why the fuck are you all so addicted to Chinese brain rot?

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    This article is horseshit. They wrote it from an unsubstantiated rumor on Reddit.

    Meanwhile, China’s People’s Dispatch has praised the exchange, and Rednote has added a translation feature.