Sounds to me like you don’t see the climate apocalypse, mass deportations, accelerated genocide in the Middle East, use of nuclear weapons, and god knows what else, as a deal breaker. You’re fine with all of that, as long as you don’t have to contend with your greatest enemy: Voting.
Much better for the power to simply accrue to whoever has the money and connections to accrue it, unmoored from an organized system to try to keep the voice of the people involved in the machinery of government. Sounds great. I hope you don’t have to witness the results in this particular election.
I’ve learned as much as I want to about what you believe and have no interest in furthering this conversation.
The climate apocalypse? That Biden doesn’t do shit about but gaslights us into thinking he does? Waiter, waiter! More drilling under Harris please!
Mass deportations? Did Biden close the concentration camps? Nope. Kids still in cages, mass deportations still happening. Harris literally supports a stronger border (as if it isn’t lethal enough)
Genocide? Harris supports it. You’re not voting for Palestine, you never were. Don’t kid yourself. You’re voting for your own comfort.
Nuclear weapons? I’d like to see a candidate support decreasing the nuclear stockpile!
You’re a coward for deluding yourself that you’re voting for change when in fact you’re voting for your own comfort. You’re not voting for change, you’re voting for death that isn’t your own.
Harris seems okay with Israel’s genocide, which sure isn’t great. Trump wants to accelerate it and move it into new areas of the world. Even by the pretty bloodthirsty standard of US presidents, he’s unusually maniacal and bloodthirsty. And yet, you’re spending some of your finite amount of agitation-on-the-internet time specifically trying to get people not to resist him. Sounds like you’re fine with genocide, and I am not.
I’m not sure how you got it twisted around in your head that me not wanting someone who will accelerate the genocide, means I love genocide. Like I said, discrediting the idea of reducing harm because of an abstract concept and philosophy, is a privileged position, taken by a privileged person who isn’t in the firing line of the harm. Someone who’s actually being harmed will generally fight for every inch they can get.
Scientists are screaming to the top of their lungs in saying the world, much less the most powerful man in the world, isn’t doing enough. He is the most powerful man in the world. Biden could stop the drilling if he wanted to. Harris could campaign on the same.
Oh did the concentration camps close? That’s what I care about. I’d support closing the camps! Anything less is sophistry.
Get your head out of your ass. Voting isn’t resistance against genocide. You’re cosigning it asshole! Don’t say you’re voting for Palestine, because you’re not. You’re a coward who won’t do the real work of taking down the empire.
Don’t you see the irony here? YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CHOOSE FOR GENOCIDE. You have no idea how weak, how pathetic your vote is. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. You COULD recognize this and recognize the absolute tragedy, the farce, feel absolute shame, hide your vote from the world from knowing (who would know? it’s a secret ballot) OR you could defend the program you’re supporting, as you are doing now. Your choice has been made. You are supporting the candidate for genocide. That’s it. There’s nothing else to it.
If you had any sense of SHAME of the HAVING NO CHOICE BUT TO CHOOSE GENOCIDE, you can shut the fuck up, stop defending Biden and Harris, and never speak of your vote again for the shamefulness that it is.
Be by utmost guest. Go ahead and vote for 99% Hitler. I won’t stop you. I couldn’t even if I wanted to. But I won’t let you forget what you are choosing. THAT’S why I’m posting.
What do you think I am? An unprincipled tankie? Have you even talked to a real person analyzing the genocide in Uyghuristan? No, you just want to compare genocides and imperialisms like some pissing contest.
I was wondering about it, yes. You are the very first one of the “I’m not from the US, but I feel INCREDIBLY strongly about how important it is that people not vote in the US election, and that method of agitation is my chief opinion about how to make good things happen in the world” accounts that hasn’t reacted to that question by claiming there is no genocide in Xinjiang. I always thought that was weird. They feel very strongly about genocide as relates to the internal politics of one country they are not from, but not about a different country they are not from.
Obviously, they are both bad things in actuality. I’m not trying to compare. The genocide in Palestine is horrifying, and like I say, not wanting it to accelerate and get substantially worse is one big reason I don’t want Trump.
It seems like you’re just going in a loop over the same type of arguments in endless repetition, so like I said, I think I’ve learned about as much as I wanted to learn from this. If you want to have some reasoned discussion I am up for it, but if it’s just more of this, then no thank you. I was just curious on your attitude to Xinjiang.
What reasonable discussion could be had through a spirited defense of a genocidaire? All you have is sophistry. Just rest in your shamefulness and shut up. Vote if you want, but don’t forget what you are cosigning.
Absolutely. You’re advocating for something which risks making genocide ten times more widespread, and I spent some time talking with you, taking your arguments head-on and explaining why I don’t agree with them. You could do the same with my arguments if you wanted to. Instead you’re going in circles. If you want to chat with me at some point in the future, start by taking my arguments head-on in the same way, instead of just circling back to the beginning of your own argument and repeating it with some capital letters added in.
Sounds to me like you don’t see the climate apocalypse, mass deportations, accelerated genocide in the Middle East, use of nuclear weapons, and god knows what else, as a deal breaker. You’re fine with all of that, as long as you don’t have to contend with your greatest enemy: Voting.
Much better for the power to simply accrue to whoever has the money and connections to accrue it, unmoored from an organized system to try to keep the voice of the people involved in the machinery of government. Sounds great. I hope you don’t have to witness the results in this particular election.
I’ve learned as much as I want to about what you believe and have no interest in furthering this conversation.
You’re a coward for deluding yourself that you’re voting for change when in fact you’re voting for your own comfort. You’re not voting for change, you’re voting for death that isn’t your own.
You need to tell the climate scientists all about how Biden didn’t do anything, they’ve got it all wrong.
https://www.vox.com/climate/362478/joe-biden-climate-change-legacy
You need to tell the immigration activists, too, they’ve also got it all wrong.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/10/trump-immigration-advocates-resistance-the-worst-scenario-mass-deportation-preparation-migration/
Harris seems okay with Israel’s genocide, which sure isn’t great. Trump wants to accelerate it and move it into new areas of the world. Even by the pretty bloodthirsty standard of US presidents, he’s unusually maniacal and bloodthirsty. And yet, you’re spending some of your finite amount of agitation-on-the-internet time specifically trying to get people not to resist him. Sounds like you’re fine with genocide, and I am not.
I’m not sure how you got it twisted around in your head that me not wanting someone who will accelerate the genocide, means I love genocide. Like I said, discrediting the idea of reducing harm because of an abstract concept and philosophy, is a privileged position, taken by a privileged person who isn’t in the firing line of the harm. Someone who’s actually being harmed will generally fight for every inch they can get.
Hey, how do you feel about the genocide in Xinjiang? Is that a red line?
What do you think I am? An unprincipled tankie? Have you even talked to a real person analyzing the genocide in Uyghuristan? No, you just want to compare genocides and imperialisms like some pissing contest.
I was wondering about it, yes. You are the very first one of the “I’m not from the US, but I feel INCREDIBLY strongly about how important it is that people not vote in the US election, and that method of agitation is my chief opinion about how to make good things happen in the world” accounts that hasn’t reacted to that question by claiming there is no genocide in Xinjiang. I always thought that was weird. They feel very strongly about genocide as relates to the internal politics of one country they are not from, but not about a different country they are not from.
Obviously, they are both bad things in actuality. I’m not trying to compare. The genocide in Palestine is horrifying, and like I say, not wanting it to accelerate and get substantially worse is one big reason I don’t want Trump.
It seems like you’re just going in a loop over the same type of arguments in endless repetition, so like I said, I think I’ve learned about as much as I wanted to learn from this. If you want to have some reasoned discussion I am up for it, but if it’s just more of this, then no thank you. I was just curious on your attitude to Xinjiang.
What reasonable discussion could be had through a spirited defense of a genocidaire? All you have is sophistry. Just rest in your shamefulness and shut up. Vote if you want, but don’t forget what you are cosigning.
Absolutely. You’re advocating for something which risks making genocide ten times more widespread, and I spent some time talking with you, taking your arguments head-on and explaining why I don’t agree with them. You could do the same with my arguments if you wanted to. Instead you’re going in circles. If you want to chat with me at some point in the future, start by taking my arguments head-on in the same way, instead of just circling back to the beginning of your own argument and repeating it with some capital letters added in.