Helo

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Cake day: August 14th, 2023



















  • Nope, it’s systemic on front-page topics. I already mentioned I check other profiles of other users, but you keep defecting responsibility away from those making profit off the site.

    Because you’ve provided zero evidence that it’s the admins of the site doing it and not merely automod configs made by users.

    You have consumed a lot of my time and attention defending Reddit owners for profiting off manipulating their end-users.

    You have consumed a lot of my time and attention by replying to my comments with assumptions of grand conspiracy theories that are easily and simply explained.

    I have said this again and again, it was not hand removed.

    Do you actually not know what Automod does? It seems like you don’t. Like, it REALLY seems like you don’t. Here is its documentation. Note that it can automatically remove comments and submissions, if the individual who sets up its config chooses to do so.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/wiki/automoderator/full-documentation

    The owners have a responsibility to know if they have been infiltrated by hostile parties.

    The admins of reddit do not give a shit what’s going on with the site so long as they’re making money and the news isn’t reporting them negatively. You’ve been on the site long enough that you should already know that. You were definitely around for beatingwomen, the_donald, fatpeoplehate, the various incel subs, the chimpire, and creepshots, if the existence and allowed growth of all of those (Before each finally got banned, for most, after something big happened outside reddit.) didn’t convince you, then I don’t know what to tell you.

    It sounds to me like you could use !RemedialMorality@lemm.ee lessons on what “good” means from bad

    It sounds to me like you could a bag of dicks to eat with this condescending bullshit for a nice dip. Pointing out that that your comments very likely weren’t removed by the admins of reddit, but by a bot hosted on reddit and programmed by user moderators isn’t a reflection of morality, but your reaction to immediately start to attempt to insult me or call me a shill or whatever definitely reflects the very sad bubble you’ve placed yourself in.

    You’re pathetic.


  • You continue to act like a public relations agent for Reddit owners who deflects all responsibility of their website. “The Buck Never Stops with the Owners Here”. As if they are not supposed to police and validate the website and see if they have been infiltrated by FSB moderators and other nation-state actors.

    You continue to act like the reddit admins are secretly targeting you when you bring up psi-ops in the comics subreddit, when in reality the solution is likely a lot simpler… but doesn’t let you feel like someone important.

    As for what the admins are supposed to do, the fact that the only reason they banned the jailbait subreddit was media outcry should tell you everything you need to know about their moral compass.

    If I wanted to change spez and was only concerned about a single person, I’d be messaging him directly.

    And you’d be ignored at best or have your account suspended at worst.

    You seem to be doing everything you can to deflect that the topic is a matter of media ecology education for the entire world of 8 billion people

    Its not deflecting if I am not discussing it in the slightest and made it clear several comments ago what I very specifically AM discussing, which is that your commentary was very likely not removed by a paid employee of reddit (As I previously stated: “The only discussion I’m having with you is whether or not it was the paid reddit employees who removed it or volunteer user moderators”). I will continue to discuss that, and only that, if you’d like to save yourself a fair amount of typing.


  • I KNOW ALL THIS. You keep deflecting the OWNERS of the site, as if they are not responsible for what goes on with secret manipulation of content!

    If you know this then why did you say, “This is not a human judgement, this is code server-side at time of publication.”, and “It is INSTANT, under 1/4 second that I can see it never gets into the comment queue, it is server-side filtered”? Both of those would imply that you did not know that automod was a native part of the site used by the volunteer moderators of the site. Automod configs are not set up by the admins of reddit. Moderators of subreddits can use those automod configs as they please so long as they don’t violate site rules.

    Yha, which is why I have been tracking the problem since 2015! It isn’t accidental on certain topics. You seem extremely gullible or here to promote gullibility among social media users.

    Pointing out that automod both exists and a user created config is the likely reason your comment was removed from the comics subreddit (Which itself probably goes harder on political commentary because the mods there likely don’t want to have to deal with said commentary.) isn’t promoting gullibility.

    I suggest you face up to your attitude if you aren’t outright being insincere just to waste my time.

    I suggest you stop spending time on reddit. spez isn’t going to change. All you’re doing going there now is enriching him with all of your content that he’s going to sell for AI bucks.

    https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/news/reddit-is-reportedly-selling-data-for-ai-training/



  • Automated systems they don’t publish the rues on topic is their responsibility. Why do you keep deflecting for them? This is not a human judgement, this is code server-side at time of publication.

    The automoderator bot was integrated into the website years ago, so yeah, it’s going to be instantaneous. The rules for automoderator are still put in place by volunteer human moderators. You mod a couple subreddits, you can verify that you can put in rules yourself on the automoderator config page for any of them.

    I am in NO WAY saying a human “admin” or “owner” removed it by hand. It is INSTANT, under 1/4 second that I can see it never gets into the comment queue, it is server-side filtered, I’m talking about who programs the server-side code and allows a system of spam filtering and automod that does not publish the rules.

    Refer to previous comment. Also, publishing automod or spam filters just tells potential bad actors they’ve been found out, leading to them adjusting accordingly. Personally I’d set automod to notify folks on some things (Usually just not having enough karma), but not, say, slurs. To wit: here’s the regex we used just to catch variations of the n-bomb in several subreddits- n[i!j1e]+gg?(rs?|ett?e?s?|lets?|ress?e?s?|r[a0oe]s?|[ie@ao0!]rs?|r[o0]ids?|ab[o0]s?|erest)

    99% of the Reddit community doesn’t even realize their comments don’t get published. I go through people’s profiles and see many are unpublished and they never comment about it. You can see them ONLY in the profile page. The keywords and patterns are rather predictable in some circumstances, so I can often predict which ones to spot-check.

    A lot of communities use automod. A lot of stuff can get false flagged by automod configs depending on how anal retentive or bad at doing it the writer of the individual config is. Scunthorpe and all that.


  • I’ve been in social media since the early 1980’s.

    Legit question: What social media existed in the early 80’s? Usenet? Were you a big name on a dial-in BBS?

    I used to work for Paul Allen and Bill Gates as a consultant and on Paul Allen’s private staff, I’m a published author on media systems and an expert on spam filtering.

    I was a reddit mod for over a decade. I wrote automod rules for subreddits with several million users and dealt with the reddit spam filters on various occasions. Not to take away from your experiences, but I think I have a pretty good knowledge of this very specific set of systems that we’re discussing now.

    Silent removal (or never publishing, even for a single second) is unethical and bad, especially how it manipulates you as creator into appearing as if your comment was published - and you wonder why nobody replies or upvotes. It’s manipulative.

    Never said it wasn’t. The only discussion I’m having with you is whether or not it was the paid reddit employees who removed it or volunteer user moderators, and I’m inclined to think its the latter based on the fact that it was later approved and visible. A user moderator wouldn’t be able to override the admins removing it, or rather wouldn’t even try because the admins would then take action against that user moderator. My personal inclination is that your post got filtered by automod and later approved by a user moderator. Admittedly it could also have somehow fallen into an actual spam filter, but that tends to be much rarer, especially for an account with some karma and age. I suppose it could also be that billmoyers.com is on reddit.com spam filter, you could check that by posting with a alt in a subreddit you mod and see what happens.

    My Reddit account is over 15 years old

    Mine was too until reddit banned it during the API protest.

    I’m not sure why you are here defending Reddit against someone calling it out who clearly knows what the fuck they are talking about.

    I’m not defending reddit. I’m pointing out that you’re assigning blame to the reddit admins when it’s not definitively them doing something.

    But it’s very sus.

    vOv If you think it’s that suspicious by all means block or ban me. I’m not going to lose sleep over it.


  • It was the OWNERS, which is more than just Spez. It’s the people who write the server-side code, not the moderators.

    So the paid reddit employees, the admins.

    They do not notify you, they just do not publish even for a single second. they even make it seem falsely that your comment is there, you have to check out-of-band to see that it is not published

    Thats literally just what automod does, which is a automated moderator tool. You can be hit by the spam filter of the website (In my experience just for using link shorteners, not much else) but the overwhelming majority of non-batant spam removals are automod rules set up by user moderators.

    Without looking behind the curtain I could make guesses as to why those comments were removed (One guess that frequently is the case, a low karma filter, another guess would be some prior shitter had a term they used a lot, so the mods filtered it.), but I couldn’t say with certainty.