Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

  • TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systemsEnglish
    7·
    13 days ago

    Do you have a link? I’m interested. (Also, I see you posted something similar a couple hours before I did. Sorry I missed that!)

      • blakestacey@awful.systemsEnglish
        18·
        13 days ago

        From the replies:

        I see the interest in AI, Peter Thiel, and the far future, but it’s a lot more rationality adjacent than EA.

        “It’s a lot more country than western”

          • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
            5·
            9 days ago

            The starving people are tied to the track, the trolley barreling down at them, they are screaming at the rich to release them or pull the lever, which they can’t, not without the rich guys help. But the rich are not helping. Why are the rich not helping Elon?

        • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
          11·
          13 days ago

          TWG: is a good reminder that atrocities don’t come from convenient avatars of all I oppose

          Random bluecheck: On the contrary, this just reaffirms my biases that e/accs and AGI race-promoters are the source of every bad thing in the world.

          TWG: was he e/acc?

          We are in the ‘he only followed some e/acc, he never said he was e/acc’ phase. Wonder what his manifesto will say.

            • Mii@awful.systemsEnglish
              15·
              12 days ago

              That conversation reads like from a variation of Mafia/Werewolf where you have to figure out who in your circle of rationalists is secretly e/acc and wants to build the torment nexus.

            • istewart@awful.systemsEnglish
              11·
              12 days ago

              bwahahaha “most reasonable operationalizations; conditional upon being e/acc.” Why does this person make me think of nasal, vaguely whiny prequel Spock?

            • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
              11·
              12 days ago

              The man who hypes up that higher intelligences can figure out laws and rules from data quicker and more thoroughly than lower intelligences defending e/acc accounts by going ‘well they never openly advocated for killing, so this is not a valid concern’. Did he forget he advocated for bombing datacenters? Guess he never read any science fiction where ‘“rational” leader accidentally inspires murderous cult’, By The God Emperor, somebody should write a science fiction novel about that. (E: hell, does he even get what accellerationism implies? Somebody reading between the lines and going 🎵 'So let the games begin, A heinous crime, a show of force, A murder would be nice of course’🎵 is not out of the question).

          • blakestacey@awful.systemsEnglish
            13·
            13 days ago

            Hopefully it elaborates on whatever the fuck this is:

            Modern Japanese urban environment is an evolutionary mismatch for the human animal.

            The solution to falling birthdates isn’t immigration. It’s cultural.

            Encourage natural human interaction, sex, physical fitness and spirituality:

            • ban Tenga fleshlights and “Japan Real Hole” custom pornstar pocket pussies being sold in Don Quixote grocery stores
            • replace conveyor belt sushi and restaurant vending machine ordering, with actual human interaction with a waiter
            • replace 24/7 eSports cafes where young males earn false fitness signals via Tekken fighting and Overwatch shooting games, with athletics in school
            • heavily stigmatize maid cafes where lonely salarymen pay young girls to dress as anime characters and perform anime dances for them
            • revitalize traditional Japanese culture (Shintoism, Okinawan karate, onsen, etc)

            If we couldn’t react with “wake up babe, new copypasta just dropped” or “tag yourself, I’m the false fitness signal in the maid café”, we couldn’t react to a lot of life.

            • gerikson@awful.systemsEnglish
              10·
              12 days ago

              being performatively worried about Japanese birth rates is a HN trope, for whatever that’s worth

            • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              9·
              12 days ago

              i thought for some time now that problems with japanese society are things like stifling conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and sexism, how they are functionally an one-party state or stiff strictly hierarchial relationships that appear out of nowhere the entire time. but yeah definitely this seed oils level of conspiracy thinking is accepted truth on eacc twitter

              it also sounds extremely specific

            • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
              6·
              13 days ago

              I dont know enough about Japan, but is it just me or is that a very specific fleshlight gripe? E: yes, I guess, this means I’m tagging myself as the fleshlight or something.

              • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
                5·
                12 days ago

                Menawhile: tenga stock prices soar because apparently their toys are so good that a guy was willing to kill for them to be banned

        • blakestacey@awful.systemsEnglish
          8·
          12 days ago

          This reminded me that TWG has a Twitter account. I could have done without that reminder.

          A few years ago, I would have pointed to Elon Musk as someone approximately where I was in the political spectrum. The left pushed him away, the right welcomed him, and he spent hundreds of millions of dollars and put in immense effort to elect Trump.

          No, you embossed carbuncle. Apartheid boy was evil all along; you were just too media-illiterate to see through the propaganda.

          • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
            11·
            11 days ago

            The left made him call that guy a pedo in 2018, and tell his first wife he was the alpha in the relationship in 2000. Thanks Obama.

            E: forgot about the ‘im actually a socialist, but with a more capitalist character’ tweet

          • maol@awful.systemsEnglish
            8·
            12 days ago

            The left did not push Elon Musk away. The left has fundamentally different interests and values to the billionaire and alleged rapist.

      • sc_griffith@awful.systemsEnglish
        9·
        13 days ago

        this guy nailing the UHC CEO is the only good thing they will ever have a chance of claiming credit for, so of course they rush to disavow him

      • David Gerard@awful.systemsMEnglish
        9·
        13 days ago

        lol that’s exquisite

        but you could tell the guy was into Effective Altruism from how he did dust specks vs CEOs