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I wasn’t sure where to put it. Wanted to put it in memes, but didn’t relish the inevitable “it’s not a meme” comments, so this seemed like the best fit.
It’s NOT my OC and I encourage you to crosspost as you wish. 🙂
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Would c/leftymemes fit better?
You are welcome to crosspost!
Kinda. Billionaires don’t usually have a checking account with a few billion in it because they took it from a company’s profit instead of giving it to payroll.
Their net worth is largely in non-liquid assets like stocks and real estate.
But, the acquisition of those nonliquid assets is still related to underpayment of wages, at least in cases of extreme wealth inequality (which is to say, pretty much every CEO currently).
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Man I am so sick of people explaining this as if people don’t understand the concept of wealth as oppose to liquid assets. The argument still stands and it just serves to derail the point of whether billionaires should exist or not, and usually it’s used for tax evasion purposes and is entirely moot to the point anyway.
The day they can’t leverage their stock to get infinite loans will be the day that this isn’t a lie.
Otherwise, it’s a bullshit argument.
This tired response needs that “brain, big brain, super brain” three part meme.
Something like “billionaires have most of their net worth tied up into non-liquid assets -> those non-liquid assets attained their high value due to workers being underpaid by exploitative employers -> billionaires are the exploitative employers”
Here you go. Added the first one to fill the 4 panel format of the one on meme generator
Thanks!
You’re very welcome 🙂
😂
Hey now, that’s not fair!
The owners don’t “earn” shit.
They lay down their chips from their last trip to the exploitation casino, and take.
Leeches that don’t do shit.
I don’t think most people begrudge owners a reasonable profit, especially if they’re running things and taking an active role in the business and pay their workers well. It’s not unreasonable to have some cash squirrelled away for the business having hard times either.
For me the issue is megacorps who exploit workers shaving working conditions and benefits until it’s bare bones, expecting more work from fewer people at higher quality, paying the bare minimum after being lucky enough to be the first to market with some idea so they’re in a completely dominant position and making billions.
What would happen if each of us get 500 of these printed as flyers and post them all over our cities?
🍽🍽🍽🍽🍽🍽🍽
What’s the maximum amount of money a person can actually earn in their life?
Isnt this a contradiction?
They earned a billion USD by underpaying you, but they still earned the money
I think this post is missing a “fairly” or something similar
They obtained it. They didn’t earn it.
I thought they meant the same
Is “Nestle earned 100 billion USD by murdering children” a invalid use for the word?
“Earn” is a more objective word. Depends on who the judge is. Does a bank robber “earn” their money?
But yes, it could apply by definition. It’s more a statement of opinion on the speaker’s part.
How do you define “earn”?
aqqured though effort, if they had some morals* beforehand it would have taken effort to underpay that many people
So would you say the mugger that knocked you out and took your phone and wallet earned them? It was an effort after all.
Does it take effort to lose your morals?
According to the dictionary that duckduckgo uses:
To yield as return or profit
There are actually two primary definitions, hence why I asked:
- to receive as return for effort and especially for work done or services rendered // to bring in by way of return
- to come to be duly worthy of or entitled or suited to // to make worthy of or obtain for
Every major dictionary has some variation on both of these, including whatever duckduckgo uses
Edit, I looked up your reference and I find it interesting you chose the third definition listed by duckduckgo to highlight here. But my point stands and both are there. The other definition is derivative of the third.
It depends on how much gravity you put into the word “earned”.
Then negotiate. Stop fingerpointing.
Step 1: Figure it out.
Step 1.5: Spread the word.
Step 2: Negotiate.
Spread the word and they’ll try to get rid of you. Negotiate for yourself. Not everyone is worth more and some people actually prefer to stay on government subsidies like SNAP, and HEAP.
Negotiate alone with what leverage? We are all replaceable. As soon as they figure out it’s just you, they will fire you and pick someone else from the hundreds of thousands who have an equivalent skill set.
If you can’t negotiate your pay in a non-union job, then you’re not worth more pay and you should stop deceiving yourself.
You mention ‘skill set’. There are far more valuable qualities to employees like reliability, dedication, how well liked you are, etc etc. Somone not realizing this indicates a lack of value as an employee.
Deceiving myself about what?
Yeah, all those qualities are a basic requirement to get a job. I have never worked with someone who didn’t have those qualities. There not something you can leverage to get a raise.
Absolute braindead take. Spoken like a nepobaby or a child who has never worked.
Negotiation almost de facto requires group effort, or a union. The only time negotiation works outside of that is edge cases.
Unions only help themselves. If you failed at negotiating; you over value yourself.
Unions only help themselves.
That’s utter bullshit.
https://www.afscme.org/blog/the-union-difference-in-wages-18-higher-pay-if-you-belong-to-a-union
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/27/labor-unions-winning-better-pay-hours.html
https://www.nber.org/digest/digestsep18/new-evidence-unions-raise-wages-less-skilled-workers
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/20/union-workers-wealth-comparison-pay-difference
https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/general/labortaskforce/docs/WORK-fs-DOL-Unions-v6.pdf
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2021/article/employee-access-to-sick-leave.htm
They lead to higher wages, job security, better benefits, and better PTO/sick days. In every respect, in general, a union job is better for the worker than a non union job.
They lead to higher wages
They lead to companies being forced to keep horrible employees that cost them money and pay them more than they’d otherwise need to. You could have negotiated better pay for yourself, but you want to keep leech employees around. They also can cause the closure of businesses (the opposite of job security). Sick time shouldn’t be a thing. No one should be incentivized to call in sick, and that costs the company money which again comes out of what you could have negotiated for yourself.
Posting a bunch of union propaganda doesn’t change the fact that they only serve themselves.
They lead to companies being forced to keep horrible employees that cost them money
I don’t care.
and pay them more than they’d otherwise need to.
Good, that’s the fucking point.
You could have negotiated better pay for yourself
You can’t, which is why unions have higher pay.
Sick time shouldn’t be a thing. No one should be incentivized to call in sick, and that costs the company money
Are you a troll, or are you genuinely this backwards?
Posting a bunch of union propaganda doesn’t change the fact that they only serve themselves.
My dude, this is all of the sources showing that they’re better jobs. It’s the government, corporate media, scientific research, all coming to the same conclusion. It ain’t propaganda.
It’s wild how you’re like
Then negotiate. But don’t do anything to make the negotiation favorable to you and don’t do anything to prevent the other party from making the negotiation favorable to them.
Wtf do you think negotiation is?
This opinion is cousin to “then vote with your wallet, but if you boycott anything then you’re woke”
And sibling to “the free market is best, except people shouldn’t be free to organize against corporations”
some people actually prefer to stay on government subsidies like SNAP, and HEAP.
Said like a real chump.
Earning more is always better.
I’m taking this
Please do and spread it everywhere it’s apt, brother/sister/sibling ✊
Is this a shitpost community or another ihatemoresuccessfulpeople lunatics group?
My man, what are you doing. We all dislike billionaires because the amount of money is not feasible to earn via honest wage work(<500k a year) in your lifetime.
They ain’t successful, they cheat. (In a usually permitted form)
My man, what are you doing.
I’m complaining about irrelevant content. These posts don’t fix the problem, they aren’t funny either. This is just an echo chamber repeating the same sound over and over again. There are other communities for that.
repeating the same sound over and over
Or in other words, a shit post.
A shitpost is purposely wrong, surprising or both.
This is neither. So keep it in other c’s otherwise, why would we even have different communities?
It’s a shitpost community, you can relax.
A shitposting community isn’t the sort of place that needs gatekeeping.
No, by all means post whateverthefuck to whereeverthefuck. Who cares
Good of you to take a break from licking corporates shoes to post this.
Oh, you are so rebellious. What are you, 15?
Oh no, I’m so wounded lol. You have a lot of maturing to do before that kind of insult has any kind of meaning behind. Come on, corporate isn’t going to notice you if you don’t try harder than that.
The classic “I don’t care about you so much that I keep engaging in the conversation to prove you that I don’t care about you”.
You are so right, it takes me an immense amount of effort taking 2 minutes responding to someone while I’m taking a shit. I’ve literally never cared more about something in my life.
while I’m taking a shit.
You did not need to specify. I knew. After all, we’ve all seen your comments.
Cute. My shit would have provided a more intellectually stimulating conversation. Sorry, that means it would have been able to give more thoughtful responses.
Go back to your billionaire pickme group, then.
Go on, shoo. Shoo
Go back to your fifth job, loser.
Lol go back to your job that you only have because you’re related to the boss, zero skill having MFer 🤣🤣
I could spend an hour writing a long winded explanation of why capitalists “earn” their wealth through wage theft… but Comrade Hakim already made a video that explains this concept pretty well so here.
