• solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    It’s not about toxicity, it’s about mind control! Fluoride makes you passive. But you know this since you’re a tool of the government pushing poison.

    Just bleach your teeth like normal people! You know, with the bleach under the kitchen sink.

    (Don’t actually do this)

  • madjo@feddit.nl
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    29 days ago

    For what’s it worth, in my country (Netherlands), we don’t add fluoride to our tap water anymore since the early 70s. We just have it in our toothpaste (though you can also get fluoride free toothpaste for those who don’t want it).

    Sure there’s still traces of fluoride in our water, as it appears in nature. But it’s not artificially added by our water companies.

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      28 days ago

      Most places that do add it to the water supply match the levels of places where flouride occurs naturally

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      29 days ago

      That toxic byproduct of fertilizer production is not going to dump itself in our water supply am I riiight?

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            29 days ago

            If that’s actually your idea of a valid source, and you’re not just trolling…I feel so sorry for you.

            That article is just not correct. I can’t even begin to point out all the flaws in it.

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              29 days ago

              Everything is accurate and sourced so don’t bother blowing smoke up my ass anymore.

              The only flaw here is someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about about trying the defend a stupid practice.

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                28 days ago

                Hmmm. The author of the article has a PhD in environmental history, so a social science. Nothing wrong with that at all, but it’s not actual hard science. Where people research and develop novel things.

                I don’t want to blow smoke anywhere near any asses. But does that article site one primary literature source? They’re all articles or if it’s an actual paper, it’s an opinion piece. I’m not going through all of them because it reads like some crazy uncle on a conspiracy theory rant.

                Are you a scientist? I know what I’m talking about, although I’m afraid you’re not.

                https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99688-w

                There’s an actual journal article (I know it’s only Nature scientific reports, but it’s a valid reference). I know it doesn’t explicitly state it’s not toxic, but:

                “Thus, based on the evidence available on the topic, it is not possible to state neither any association or the lack of an association between F exposure and any neurological disorder.”

                Taken straight from their conclusion.

                Obviously there’s many more sources, and again, I’m happy to provide you with some of you’d like to enhance your knowledge on the subject.

                • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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                  28 days ago

                  Fluoride is safe topically and ineffective when introduced to our water supply. It is not some giant conspiracy, just a practice that is no longer necessary and unsafe because the industrial waste fluoride that is used is contaminated. Please save me the appeal to authority nonsense.

  • Allero@lemmy.today
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    29 days ago

    The question to me is - do we even have to fluoridate water and is this really the best approach?

    For example, most European countries do not commonly use fluoride in their water supply, and everyone’s just fine! No extra cavities, no special health risks. People commonly drink tap water and do not care about potential for any adverse effects, because it’s just that - clean water. And for any teeth-related issues, you already have your toothpaste providing more than enough fluorine.

    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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      29 days ago

      It depends if you believe in the apocryphal story behind fluoridation. This is a story that justifies the state and it’s right of medical intervention into your life with the need of your informed consent.

      These types of stories are designed to justify the right to act of an entity/egregor using the least objectionnable scenario possible. Once this precedent is established it can built upon to justify other actions in other scenarios. All the other unobjectionnable things done to you or in your name