I was gonna title this “And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice” and then write “Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again” here, but I’m not sure if that comes off like gloating and that’s honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

  • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 hours ago

    I’m not gloating, I just said I didn’t want to seem like I was because I’m not trying to antagonize my political allies. I’m sorry if it seems like I am because that really is the last thing I want to do. I want Republicans to lose elections and I’m just putting forth a theory of why they didn’t last night that seems persuasive to me because I’m still operating under the assumption we’ll have more elections (which, like, very TBD, but either way I think building a coalition of like-minded people will be important).

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      4 hours ago

      I am absolutely gloating.

      Four fucking years of telling liberals exactly what will happen.

      Four years of liberals plugging their ears and closing their eyes, continuing to spew their neoliberal fascist rhetoric.

      To any liberal reading this: yes, I fucking told you so. Guess reality was on my side again. You deserve Trump.

      As if the party that wholeheartedly accepted genocide as a means to an end was going to do shit for any queer folks or leftists if they won.

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      7 hours ago

      Obama won his election after being a good bit to the right of either Biden or Harris. I think most of what’s changed since then is the awesome power of the influence operations which succeed at creating alternate realities for people where Trump is important to vote for, and Harris is important not to vote for, depending on the person being targeted.

      I’m not trying to be closed-minded about it, and maybe my meme as applied to you was unfair. I’m a little bit on edge when talking with the “what the Democrats did wrong” crowd on Lemmy, since a lot of them also like to make up imagined sins for the Democrats, helping to create that alternate reality, to go alongside any well-intentioned criticism they are giving.

      The bottom line is, the Democrats lost for a variety of reasons some of which were their fault and some weren’t, and we are thoroughly fucked as a result. I don’t think people realize how bad it’s going to be.

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        Obama was about as moderate as Harris and Biden. I’d even say his campaign was more progressive than theirs. He’s been the only Democratic candidate to run on a platform of change in the last two decades. All the others have run on a platform of the status quo, even Biden.