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    Around 6 months ago I made a profile on Kippo, the ‘gamer dating app’.

    Because of the gaming centric focus, you either can’t or have to pay money to filter by things that might actually make sense for a dating app (religion, political beliefs, do or do not want or have children etc)…

    … But what everyone lists is their favorite games.

    So I made some basic rules: Hard No for anyone who lists League or other games that are notorious for the extreme community toxicity.

    … And LoL being a Nope filters out about 80% of people.

    I no longer have a profile on Kippo.

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      Kippo, the ‘gamer dating app’.

      Well that sounds like a terrible idea

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      I hadn’t heard of this app, but it sounds like it’s even worse than standard apps, which are already a shithole and waste of time. I wonder what the skew is there as well. I bet it’s something like 95% men, 4% bots/sex workers/scammers, and 1% women, lol.

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        At one point it, like years ago, it was only kind of shitty…

        Then 2 things happened around the same time:

        Kippo decided to just abandon improving the actual profile/matching system, and decided to turn the app into basically habbo hotel. It does not work well, and they started monetizing more heavily to pay for developing this, stopped improving the dating profiles and matching completely.

        AND

        Tons and tons of girls (18 or barely older) began becoming EGirls/TwitchThots, realizing being pretty and playing some popular game was a great way to get simps. Many, many of the profiles on Kippo now are just obviously this, with links to their Twitch or OnlyFans, only playing games that have huge audiences on Twitch.

        It used to have a lot more genuine people on it.

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          Interesting, I didn’t realize it was around that long, though I don’t use dating apps so I’m not the most plugged in. I’m really not sure how they continue to exist, honestly, but I guess people are hopeful they’ll pan out for them one day.

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            4 months ago

            The even more insane one is the 4chan dating app… Duolicious or duos or something.

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              That has to be up there with “worst ideas I’ve ever heard,” lol. I don’t know why you’d want to invite that digital hellscape into your real life.

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                Worst part is that it got hacked and leaked so all the profiles are public info with name, picture and location.

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        I mean, I had Fallout New Vegas, Deus Ex, Squad, Humankind, some others.

        I think in all my years on and off using Kippo I saw a single woman who listed FNV.

        Never saw any for Deus Ex, for any shooter game that isn’t a hero shooter, never any for a 4X…

        I never once came close to finding someone with a similar taste for games as myself.

        Basically it would either be:

        Twitch Girl who plays all the popular on Twitch games. Also does OnlyFans. Also is not looking for dates, just simps.

        Awkward Shut In Girl who plays Stardew Valley and Pokemon and Animal Crossing. Only has pics of themselves in a hoody seemingly right after waking up, a bunch of their poorly drawn OCs, and a bunch of their pets. …Waaay too many pets.

        Random person who has only played like 3 games that are over 15 years old and hasn’t updated their profile in seemingly 10 years, is never online. Has a decent selfie, a pic of either a bong or a 40, and another pic of some random place they were at a decade ago, seemingly taken either by accident or while drunk/high.

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    Nobody wants to play with toxic children, they not even among themselves. True plague of multiplayer, which could be awesome but it’s just not. So props for containing, indeed. It’s the asylum they seek themselves and for the best of all the other online communities, best not close it.

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      True plague of multiplayer, which could be awesome but it’s just not.

      People so often forget the joy of multiplayer is in playing with people you actually know. The true scourge of multiplayer is the death of the LAN Party and the high school / college online play circles as people grow up.

      Multiplayer is best when you have a large group of people who all know each other and cheerfully rival one another, before periodically going out to test their skills in larger tournaments, learn strategies, and bring them home again to advance the local meta. Its miserable when you’re just connecting to random anonymous people, playing a handful of rounds, and then never seeing or hearing from them again.

      Even the most annoying in-group player can become endearing over time. But the anonymous opponent is obnoxious entirely by playing in a way you’re unfamiliar with.

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        i agree with you so much! i am working on building a gaming company that focuses on friends & family style gaming. cheaters and toxic players can only be avoided by playing with people you trust. where it gets hard is allowing players of multiple skill levels to meaningfully compete.

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    Its so easy and fun to recognize LoL players when they try and play Dota 2, Dota has a much higher skill ceiling than Lol and they almost always get extremely toxic.

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    Fortunately, there’s really nowhere for them to go except I guess Dota2, that’s still around, right?

    Maybe they’d end up being toxic Stardew Valley players 😂

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          Alright so the daily player count of league is currently 10 million, but to your point Dota 2 is 400k. Dota’s only a fraction of the league player base for sure.

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            Is that daily player count concurrent or total for the day? If it is the first, I don’t think these figures are comparable.

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              That’s a good point! Now that I’m looking at the numbers closer, Dota 2 is average concurrent while league is total for the day! I’ll try to find more comparable numbers and edit my comment.

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    My mom said that the doctor called it a “Containment Breach” when I was born. No clue what that’s about.

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    So as someone who has never played LoL or any MoBA (or is it a DOTA?), can someone give me a run-down? Just generally toxic behavior?

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      especially in league,
      small mistakes create a downwards spiral.

      when you die your enemy can lane freely while you miss out.
      making him stronger and you weaker.

      that loss also has more impact.
      in mobas the diffrence between a kited out and a ill equiped player is far more drastic than in other games like csgo.

      the separated laning also makes it easier to pick out a scapegoat.
      the lane that lost is easily blamed,
      even if the rest of the team did nothing to help them.

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      There’s a thousand little unique skills, and they’re all important. Some of them include communicating with your team and managing team morale.

      Additionally you get matched up with 4 people who roughly have the same sum of skills, which almost certainly means a completely different makeup of skills

      So you notice your teammates screwing up all the things you’re better at, and you naturally overlook your teammates skills that don’t look like your own.

      This basically manifests as road rage where the driver doesn’t realize he is the traffic. It creates a situation where nearly all your teammates look like idiots compared to what you look for. Because you’re not looking at ALL the things.

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        This reminds me of Overwatch so much. I usually played healer and it was all too common to watch the tanks and DPS being great at doing their own jobs, but terrible at doing them together. Then it’s just a feed machine until the game is over.

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      Mobas (and team games in general) have an inherent issue where people dont like to be losing, and when they are, they usually find an outlet by blaming the rest of the team.

      Its a pretty huge problem in league because

      1. Behavior problem. Riot has like never addressed the toxicity issue. They’ve basically said heres some banned words and thats it. People can get by either griefing in game (which has been essentially unpunished) or by typing in non bannable ways (i remember seeing someone using europe as a uhh… You know)
      2. Game design problem. League is pretty punishing when it comes to losing. You’re stuck in a game you dont want to play, esp if your team holds you hostage by not surrendering intentionally. There’s no fast way to get into a new game. You have to finish this, lose lp (ranked point system in league), and then possibly run into the same situation again. This isn’t really riot’s fault. This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet
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        This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet

        A flaw of humanity really. But unlike Riot, Valve has and still are taking action against toxicity in DotA 2, for example with their behaviour score system.

        • Reports for toxic chat, toxic voice, and/or greifing will lower behaviour score.

        • Matchmaking considers this score, putting toxic people in matches together.

        • If a player’s behaviour score is too low they will automatically be muted.

        • Typing slurs in chat lowers behaviour score, and too many will mute the player for the rest of the match.

        • On the match found pop-up, it tells you if the behaviour score is differing between the players. You can then either press confirm or queue again to find a better match.

        • At the end of a match you can dislike players, which will lessen then chance of meeting that player again. You can also press avoid on a player, making it impossible to be matched on team with that player again.

        There’s more to it, but that’s the gist of it. Still a toxic game but at least 10 times less than LoL.

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          “I hope europe yourself” is the exact phrase I heard

          Guess I shouldve given context, it is a bit harder to see out of context haha

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            It’s way to say rope yourself, or hang yourself, and get past the chat filters. It’s the closest league players get to a creative writing exercise.

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      If a game is going poorly, they find something to blame. And games will often be considered lost very early (even if they might not be) but you still have to play the game until you lose, which can be frustrating for many

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      first game i played i lost. i was fucking pissed.

      second game i played i easily won. i was fucking pissed.

      thats the small of it

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    League of Legends has a particularly obnoxious user base: KanyeNo.jpg

    League of Legends has a large base of players from overseas, and this drives English-speaking players insane with rage: KanyeYes.jpg