especially in league,
small mistakes create a downwards spiral.
when you die your enemy can lane freely while you miss out.
making him stronger and you weaker.
that loss also has more impact.
in mobas the diffrence between a kited out and a ill equiped player is far more drastic than in other games like csgo.
the separated laning also makes it easier to pick out a scapegoat.
the lane that lost is easily blamed,
even if the rest of the team did nothing to help them.
There’s a thousand little unique skills, and they’re all important. Some of them include communicating with your team and managing team morale.
Additionally you get matched up with 4 people who roughly have the same sum of skills, which almost certainly means a completely different makeup of skills
So you notice your teammates screwing up all the things you’re better at, and you naturally overlook your teammates skills that don’t look like your own.
This basically manifests as road rage where the driver doesn’t realize he is the traffic. It creates a situation where nearly all your teammates look like idiots compared to what you look for. Because you’re not looking at ALL the things.
This reminds me of Overwatch so much. I usually played healer and it was all too common to watch the tanks and DPS being great at doing their own jobs, but terrible at doing them together. Then it’s just a feed machine until the game is over.
Mobas (and team games in general) have an inherent issue where people dont like to be losing, and when they are, they usually find an outlet by blaming the rest of the team.
Its a pretty huge problem in league because
Behavior problem. Riot has like never addressed the toxicity issue. They’ve basically said heres some banned words and thats it. People can get by either griefing in game (which has been essentially unpunished) or by typing in non bannable ways (i remember seeing someone using europe as a uhh… You know)
Game design problem. League is pretty punishing when it comes to losing. You’re stuck in a game you dont want to play, esp if your team holds you hostage by not surrendering intentionally. There’s no fast way to get into a new game. You have to finish this, lose lp (ranked point system in league), and then possibly run into the same situation again. This isn’t really riot’s fault. This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet
This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet
A flaw of humanity really. But unlike Riot, Valve has and still are taking action against toxicity in DotA 2, for example with their behaviour score system.
Reports for toxic chat, toxic voice, and/or greifing will lower behaviour score.
Matchmaking considers this score, putting toxic people in matches together.
If a player’s behaviour score is too low they will automatically be muted.
Typing slurs in chat lowers behaviour score, and too many will mute the player for the rest of the match.
On the match found pop-up, it tells you if the behaviour score is differing between the players. You can then either press confirm or queue again to find a better match.
At the end of a match you can dislike players, which will lessen then chance of meeting that player again. You can also press avoid on a player, making it impossible to be matched on team with that player again.
There’s more to it, but that’s the gist of it. Still a toxic game but at least 10 times less than LoL.
If a game is going poorly, they find something to blame. And games will often be considered lost very early (even if they might not be) but you still have to play the game until you lose, which can be frustrating for many
So as someone who has never played LoL or any MoBA (or is it a DOTA?), can someone give me a run-down? Just generally toxic behavior?
especially in league,
small mistakes create a downwards spiral.
when you die your enemy can lane freely while you miss out.
making him stronger and you weaker.
that loss also has more impact.
in mobas the diffrence between a kited out and a ill equiped player is far more drastic than in other games like csgo.
the separated laning also makes it easier to pick out a scapegoat.
the lane that lost is easily blamed,
even if the rest of the team did nothing to help them.
Sounds like a game designed to ruin relationships.
There’s a thousand little unique skills, and they’re all important. Some of them include communicating with your team and managing team morale.
Additionally you get matched up with 4 people who roughly have the same sum of skills, which almost certainly means a completely different makeup of skills
So you notice your teammates screwing up all the things you’re better at, and you naturally overlook your teammates skills that don’t look like your own.
This basically manifests as road rage where the driver doesn’t realize he is the traffic. It creates a situation where nearly all your teammates look like idiots compared to what you look for. Because you’re not looking at ALL the things.
This reminds me of Overwatch so much. I usually played healer and it was all too common to watch the tanks and DPS being great at doing their own jobs, but terrible at doing them together. Then it’s just a feed machine until the game is over.
Beautiful description. Well said.
Mobas (and team games in general) have an inherent issue where people dont like to be losing, and when they are, they usually find an outlet by blaming the rest of the team.
Its a pretty huge problem in league because
A flaw of humanity really. But unlike Riot, Valve has and still are taking action against toxicity in DotA 2, for example with their behaviour score system.
Reports for toxic chat, toxic voice, and/or greifing will lower behaviour score.
Matchmaking considers this score, putting toxic people in matches together.
If a player’s behaviour score is too low they will automatically be muted.
Typing slurs in chat lowers behaviour score, and too many will mute the player for the rest of the match.
On the match found pop-up, it tells you if the behaviour score is differing between the players. You can then either press confirm or queue again to find a better match.
At the end of a match you can dislike players, which will lessen then chance of meeting that player again. You can also press avoid on a player, making it impossible to be matched on team with that player again.
There’s more to it, but that’s the gist of it. Still a toxic game but at least 10 times less than LoL.
i genuinely dont get the europe thing. what does it mean?
“I hope europe yourself” is the exact phrase I heard
Guess I shouldve given context, it is a bit harder to see out of context haha
I’m going to guess rape
It’s way to say rope yourself, or hang yourself, and get past the chat filters. It’s the closest league players get to a creative writing exercise.
If a game is going poorly, they find something to blame. And games will often be considered lost very early (even if they might not be) but you still have to play the game until you lose, which can be frustrating for many
first game i played i lost. i was fucking pissed.
second game i played i easily won. i was fucking pissed.
thats the small of it
weak mental