• Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Uh oh, did someone finally ask a friend to help them read the clients list, only to find Donny on it?

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    This is probably the only thing that will wake the MAGA diehards up. There are a lot of vile people that will vote for anyone who promises to, “own the libs,” but the real Trump true believers have built an entire mythology around this Epstien/QAnon/Deep State bullshit. They’re not going to accept, “Oh, nm, it was a suicide and there are no tapes or lists, my bad,” as an answer. Couple this with the even sharper decline in their standard of living that’s coming soon and they might actually turn on him.

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      QAnon doesn’t support Trump anymore. My mom is deep in that shit and the communications they send out say Trump is dead and the government is being run by the “deep state”. The weather is being controlled by the government blah blah blah.

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      13 hours ago

      Facts don’t wake up MAGA diehards. Feelings will.

      Right now, they’re in the cult through tribal mentality and loneliness. Imagine if a moral compass suddenly asked you to boycott “Every website ever made”. Even if that imperative was fact-based, many couldn’t do it.

      Not discounting the part where they’re insanely evil, but many are afraid to face reality at this point.

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        I don’t think that it’s facts that will wake them up, I think it’s that Trump is moving to end the delusion. You can explain how child abduction isn’t nearly as prevalent as they think it is, you can debunk their Wayfair child-trafficking conspiracy, you can prove that Comet Ping-Pong doesn’t have a basement, and they will ignore those facts. They’ll tell you it’s deep-state propaganda to stop Trump. But if Trump tells them there’s no deep-state and that they’ve wasted the last decade on a LARP? That’s not gonna go over well.

        And again, this is for the true-believers; some of them are vile, some of them are misguided, a lot of them are somewhere in between, but in the end, they all believe in the deep-state, human-trafficking, satanic-panic bullshit. There are plenty of Trump supporters who are just cruel little goblins who want Trump to hurt people, and they’re not gonna give a shit about this.

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    13 hours ago

    I’m convinced Epstein killed himself, but I’m also convinced that MAGA’s top brass pewter are overrepresented on those lists.

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    15 hours ago

    Notice how she also made a point of saying how “he wasn’t blackmailing any elites”.

    Basically admitting to him blackmailing Trump which then Trump silenced him.

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    18 hours ago

    And anyone who asks to see it just wants child porn.

    Sorry, that’s not the exact quote. The exact quote is

    “Through this review, we found no basis to revisit the disclosure of those materials and will not permit the release of child pornography.”

  • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Wait they seriously flipped to “It never existed?” Was it dreamed up out of nothing likeHunter Biden’s laptop?

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        The laptop was “real” in the sense that it was a real laptop and belonged to him, but it changed hands a bunch of times between Russian assets and parties with clear intent and motives before being “released,” and there’s no way in hell to prove it wasn’t grossly tampered with, so it almost definitely was. It was a manufactured propaganda tool by Russia/Trump at a time when the public was being given 400 pages of damning evidence that Trump’s campaign was collaborating with Russian assets.

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          Yup, Hunter had a personal laptop, Russian agents got it an dropped it off at a repair shop they know would then “publish” the info.

          It’s all the dumbest shit, Hunter has issues, whatever, he isn’t involved in Biden presidency at all unlike Trump’s kids. And then they go and blow it into some massive countrywide issue, while the Trump family openly accepts bribes and planes in front of everybody.

          The whole cause of the hunter Biden investigation was for an alleged 10 million dollar bribe that a Russian agent tipped off with zero evidence. Meanwhile billion dollar Saudi deals, and 400 million dollar planes are being exchanged and nobody bat’s an eye.

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        17 hours ago

        That quote makes me laugh. At face value, it says that an FBI agent confirmed someone did indeed have an authentic laptop.

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        It must be so disappointing to be MAGA. You’re a nasty shit person to everyone, and just when you think you get what you’ve waited for or start to win, the goal posts move and nothing actually materializes… ever.

        Border wall, Epstein files, cheaper prices, making America great… it’s all just lies that will never come to pass.

        After all these years what do they have to be proud of, other than the “liberal tears” they seem to somehow feed off of… Other Americans in less pain than they are, that’s all they are getting, but it seems to be enough.

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    16 hours ago

    We know at least Trump, Leon, and Bill Gates were all frequent flyers there. It’s a start!

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      There is no evidence Bill Gates has ever been to the island, neither flight logs or photographs of any kind. He has at least twice had dinner with Epstein back when Epstein was publicly known as a venture capitalist and philanthropist, likely having to do with the world’s largest philanthropic organization the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.

      That rumour has been flying around after a tweet claiming it went viral in 2023 referencing a then 8 year old court document involving Ghislaine Maxwell who worked for Epstein.