• theneverfox@pawb.social
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      6 hours ago

      So I, a jew who has never even been to Israel, who’s ancestors left centuries ago, am responsible for the state of Israel in any fucking way?

      Jewish does not mean Israeli… At all.

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        So I, as a jew, who has never even been to Israel, don’t feel threatened by the original comment at all, because I’m not an Israeli settler and haven’t kicked anyone off their property, and thus don’t have to fear having to give anyone their stolen property back.

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        6 hours ago

        Ummm I never said that.

        I agree that Jewish does not mean Israeli.

        I’m specifically talking about individuals involved in war crimes that they should be held accountable.

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          Anti semitic remarks are not the same as anti Israeli remarks

          I feel nothing when that guy changed “death, death to the IDF”. Well, maybe a mix of amusement and concern. But I have nothing, at all, to do with the IDF and do not support what they do

          When you say, in this context, “I’ll cool it with the anti semitic comments when war criminals are brought to justice”, how do you think that feels?

          Don’t take this shit casually, anti semitism goes back to biblical times. I’ve experienced it growing up. And now, they’re asking new York Jews what they think of “their” prime minister? They’re “othering” us already

          They just built a concentration camp. In America. The Holocaust wasn’t the first time they targeted the Jews as the enemy within. I’ve always reminded my family who start flirting with conservatism… We’re always second. When they run out of people that look different, we’re next

          I know what you meant. But that’s not what you said, and words matter

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      7 hours ago

      I’m onboard with that, man. Like I said, I’m down with everything up to the very destruction of the Israeli state. It’s just ethnic cleansing and antisemitism I’m opposed to.

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        46 minutes ago

        Why not destroy the state and create one where everyone has equal rights? A state anchored in the supremacy of one group is an apartheid state. It’s clear as day which side you’re on supporting such a state.

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          Why not destroy the state and create one where everyone has equal rights?

          That’s literally what a one-state solution is, as supported in the very fucking title. Jesus Christ.

          A state anchored in the supremacy of one group is an apartheid state. It’s clear as day which side you’re on supporting such a state.

          Me: “Like I said, I’m down with everything up to the very destruction of the Israeli state.”

          You: “It’s clear that you support the state of Israel!”

          The worst part is, I don’t know if this is trolling. I legitimately believe that you could be at this reading level.

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            There will be no Israeli state in a world where everyone has equal rights. It will be destroyed if it is for everyone to have equal rights. And a new state will be founded, under a name that is not Israel and doesn’t resemble the apartheid state of Israel. Only then can you actually talk about equal rights for every group of people.

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              … okay? How does that contradict anything I said, considering that I explicitly mentioned the destruction of the Israeli state as perfectly fine by me?

              Or are you going to ignore that and make another inane statement in direct contradiction to the very comment you’re quoting?