• Ofiuco@piefed.ca
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    Maliciously written header, it’s not about tourists, it’s about USA immigrants who move to México but earn in dollars and pay no taxes, so obviously the market is trying to squeeze them leaving out the rest of the mexicans who can’t keep up with the prices (in every aspect).

    Then again, this was caused by the now president who basically gave free reign to airbnb so she and her party could benefit from that money.
    But lemmy says I’m wrong for criticising a fake leftist.

  • madlian@lemmy.cafe
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    Graffiti on glass shattered glass being smashed through with rocks read: “get out of Mexico.” Protesters held signs reading “gringos, stop stealing our home”

    There is some humor in them complaining about white people being there while the US complains about them being here.

    People everywhere are racist as fuck. 😅

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      The difference is that the the Latinos in the United States are therr because they have to be to survive; meanwhile the Americans in Mexico are there to take advantage of the fucked up situation that their American empire created in Mexico.

      One is a necessity and the other is good ole American racism.

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      There’s a difference though, Mexico has had a huge influx of US remote workers who basically hang out as tourists and literally are gentrifying Mexico City and raising the cost of living because locals can’t compete with the wages the US citizens get in US dollars, which are (currently) more valuable than the Mexican Peso. This absolutely raises the cost of living as the city begins to cater more and more to US remote workers and less and less to the actual citizens of Mexico City.

      Here’s an article on it from as far back as 2023: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/mexico-city-gentification-americans-rent-prices/3231544/

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        But Mexico City is most likely my cheap and easy go-to escape plan for if/when shit hits the fan in the U.S. I wonder if others had the same thought.

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          Stay in the US and clean up your own fucking messes instead of expecting the countries the US has exploited the living shit out of to achieve your high quality of life in the US to take care of your bitch ass. The fucking entitlement. Mexico doesn’t owe you a fucking escape hatch.

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            Everyone has one life to live. Most people younger than 60 have had next to no control over the US government through any phase of their lives - hard to rationalize this being “their own” mess. Telling these people that they must risk their lives, rather than seeking better ones is pretty ethically problematic.

            And on the other side of the coin, that is the exact same rhetoric used by racists and xenophobes to argue against asylum seekers.

            (Note: This really doesn’t apply to the tax-dodging shitheads who are avoiding paying for the societal benefits that they enjoy.)

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                I would say that it is cowardice to demand that others risk their lives while enjoying relative safety. And anyone attempting to force another to risk their lives for any reason is attempting to rob others of their agency over the most fundamental thing that any human has right to: their life.

                Maybe it’s nice sentiment for a healthy teenager or 20-something that isn’t responsible for anyone else’s well-being. However, is that reality doesn’t fit neatly into black and white; bravery and cowardice (and glory is just a lie that the rich and old tell the young and poor to get them to fight and die for them). Sometimes the braver and more just thing is to fulfill one’s responsibilities to their spouse, children, or dependents and ensure that they are able to live to help others. And other’s have had so much taken from them by a place that asking for them to also give their life is pure sadism.

                Beyond that, not everyone is physically, mentally or socially equipped for warfare, which is a good thing because humanity also needs farmers, doctors, teachers, and other builders.

      • madlian@lemmy.cafe
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        They’re in Mexico because they can’t afford to live in the states. My rental equivalent in Mexico is like 50-70% lower. I’m being paid the same as I was in 2013. My rent has almost tripled.

        They can cry all they want—I need to live too. And as we all know the people who own those places don’t care but the citizens have to think. They will smash some windows and gentrification will roll in anyway. This is because no one is willing to scream upwards

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            Who is “you” in that sentence? Them? I don’t think Mexicans get deported to the US.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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              No, but USAmericans living in Mexico can be deported back to the US, especially if the local voting population “cry all they want” about it.

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                So, do you think that the rich people who own everything in Mexico are going to allow the non-Mexican people who are paying more than they should but less than they were before to be deported? I would be very surprised if the rich Mexicans are willing to give up that cash. Break as many windows as you want

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                  19 hours ago

                  I would guess it’s not windows but gringos those people will start breaking. And even the Mexican rich don’t want an unstable society, so they might just let them.

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            Being priced out of the life you had before and finding another cheaper place to live is an experience only found in the USA. /s

            Complaining about life being unfair is something only people from the USA do. /s

            Getting pissed off about gentrification is something only found in Mexico /s

            Btw, Mexico is in America

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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              Being priced out of the life you had before and finding another cheaper place to live is an experience only found in the USA.

              Yes, most people don’t have the option to “just move to another cheaper country”, they just become homeless. OP could at least be gracious about it instead of being dismissive.

              Complaining about life being unfair is something only people from the USA do.

              Not really, but the “they can cry all they want” attitude while OP got priced out of their own country is entitled as fuck.

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      Graffiti on glass shattered glass being smashed through with rocks read: “get out of Mexico.” Protesters held signs reading “gringos, stop stealing our home”

      They should have thrown it back with the poor grammar corrected, and stating they can help the Mexican’s learn English.

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    Possibly unpopular opinion but fuck them tourists.

    I feel bad for the trashed businesses, as they tend to be at least locally owned.

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      I live in a touristy party of Japan and it’s quite overwhelming. I feel the same as you most of the time, but I like travelling too and I love hosting friends who come. I just think the government and businesses need to make use of the tourists other than milk them for money and treat them like royalty.

      At least where I live, I would like for tourists to learn about our history and have them clean up our beaches. It’d be nice of they raised a fuss about our lack of public transportation and clean energy too, since the government only listens to those who are willing to spend money here.

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          I mean… if you live there do you really need a hotel? There are lots of businesses that cater specifically to tourists.

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        Mass tourism.

        Mass tourism is a cancer that needs to be irradiated from any proper city. That shit brings very little money, and mobs of unruly, uneducated dimwits that think they own someone’s soul because they spent €5 on a couple of the cheapest drinks on the menu.