Polling shows Americans are ready to support independent populists running on economic platforms. But what they don’t want is anything associated with the Democratic Party’s brand.
Edit: I feel like I need to explain this. For those who don’t know, this is from Silence Of The Lambs. The person in the top panel is a serial killer who has the woman in the bottom panel trapped in an old well. He’s telling her that she has to rub lotion on her skin or else he will punish her.
The meme is that we, independent American voters, are the woman trapped in the well, and the two-party, American political system is the serial killer. Liberal technocrats tell us that we must vote for them, regardless of whether or not we feel they will actually represent us, because if we don’t we will get “punished” with the Republicans.
There is no question that complying with the serial killer is a better option than failing to comply and receiving his punishment. But, regardless, we’re trapped in a fucking well, held against our will, by a psycho. Similarly, there’s no question the Democrats are a better option than the Republicans, but either way we’re being ruled against our will, by people we do not like or believe in.
Poor analogy that has no relevance to the political landscape.
I think it’s relevant. I can tell you that are many voting age Americans who feel held hostage by our highly restrictive two party system. You’re not one of them. That’s fine, I’m not trying to describe your experience. I don’t know you, so I don’t know how that would even be possible. I’m describing my experience. You can choose to completely dismiss my experience if you want but I think that shows a real lack of empathy. We get it, you don’t care that millions of Americans don’t feel represented by either political party, but I do care.
Spent 30 years campaigning, calling, sign waving, writing letters, donating to candidates, causes, and groups. Even ran for office a couple of times. Every year it gets worse and I’ve got kids. They don’t need to live in a dystopian place so we’re on the road. Headed to a developed nation. Greener pastures,.but it’s worth a try.
The problem is our defacto two party system. With only two parties, a large percentage of the electorate is likely to be left without representation. I don’t want to prevent Democrats from having the representation they want, I just feel like I deserve to have representation too.
No, not voting is simply not voting. More to the point, not voting is “explicitly” saying you don’t care enough to spend the time or energy on casting a vote or you couldn’t vote. A person might think it implicitly* says “either choice is equally good”, but then I could argue that the Democrat party implicitly considers “either choice equally good” because they didn’t attempt to earn the votes.
When it’s easier to not vote than come out to vote, then the responsibility is on the candidates to convince their potential constituents to turn out for them.
What an entitled, selfish demand to claim others are responsible to convince you to do the most basic of civic duties. Do you also blame your dentist when you don’t brush? Your doctor when you’re malnourished?
You’re an adult, whether you accept that or not. That means you’re responsible for your choices, including the choice to let an election fall to the greater evil because you couldn’t assed to fill in a ballot for anybody. Nobody else is responsible for you, that’s on you.
By claiming people must vote for the “lesser evil” and nothing else then the party of “lesser evil” implicitly paves the way for people to stop showing up for them, which to that side paves the way for their greater evil to eventually win. -If you think that’s selfish and entitled, then that’s your prerogative, but if you want people support your candidate then you have to get them to want to support your candidate, be it selfish or not.
So they voted for a dictator to end all this party business.
Edit: I feel like I need to explain this. For those who don’t know, this is from Silence Of The Lambs. The person in the top panel is a serial killer who has the woman in the bottom panel trapped in an old well. He’s telling her that she has to rub lotion on her skin or else he will punish her.
The meme is that we, independent American voters, are the woman trapped in the well, and the two-party, American political system is the serial killer. Liberal technocrats tell us that we must vote for them, regardless of whether or not we feel they will actually represent us, because if we don’t we will get “punished” with the Republicans.
There is no question that complying with the serial killer is a better option than failing to comply and receiving his punishment. But, regardless, we’re trapped in a fucking well, held against our will, by a psycho. Similarly, there’s no question the Democrats are a better option than the Republicans, but either way we’re being ruled against our will, by people we do not like or believe in.
Poor analogy that has no relevance to the political landscape. But thanks for trying to mansplain it.
I think it’s relevant. I can tell you that are many voting age Americans who feel held hostage by our highly restrictive two party system. You’re not one of them. That’s fine, I’m not trying to describe your experience. I don’t know you, so I don’t know how that would even be possible. I’m describing my experience. You can choose to completely dismiss my experience if you want but I think that shows a real lack of empathy. We get it, you don’t care that millions of Americans don’t feel represented by either political party, but I do care.
that’s why I have affordable healthcare in America, thanks to Biden…
Then run.
Maybe you’ll even win and don’t need to align yourself with either party.
I’m running.
Got my passport, now I just have to figure out where I’m running to.
I’m already on the road ahead of you.
Spent 30 years campaigning, calling, sign waving, writing letters, donating to candidates, causes, and groups. Even ran for office a couple of times. Every year it gets worse and I’ve got kids. They don’t need to live in a dystopian place so we’re on the road. Headed to a developed nation. Greener pastures,.but it’s worth a try.
I could run, but I would almost certainly lose.
The problem is our defacto two party system. With only two parties, a large percentage of the electorate is likely to be left without representation. I don’t want to prevent Democrats from having the representation they want, I just feel like I deserve to have representation too.
At large elections. Sure. I get that.
But local small elections, an independent candidate is viable. And there is plenty that you can do locally to help.
What a useless comment.
Most likely they just didn’t vote.
Same thing. Not voting is explicitly saying either choice is equally good to you.
No, not voting is simply not voting. More to the point, not voting is “explicitly” saying you don’t care enough to spend the time or energy on casting a vote or you couldn’t vote. A person might think it implicitly* says “either choice is equally good”, but then I could argue that the Democrat party implicitly considers “either choice equally good” because they didn’t attempt to earn the votes.
When it’s easier to not vote than come out to vote, then the responsibility is on the candidates to convince their potential constituents to turn out for them.
What an entitled, selfish demand to claim others are responsible to convince you to do the most basic of civic duties. Do you also blame your dentist when you don’t brush? Your doctor when you’re malnourished?
You’re an adult, whether you accept that or not. That means you’re responsible for your choices, including the choice to let an election fall to the greater evil because you couldn’t assed to fill in a ballot for anybody. Nobody else is responsible for you, that’s on you.
By claiming people must vote for the “lesser evil” and nothing else then the party of “lesser evil” implicitly paves the way for people to stop showing up for them, which to that side paves the way for their greater evil to eventually win. -If you think that’s selfish and entitled, then that’s your prerogative, but if you want people support your candidate then you have to get them to want to support your candidate, be it selfish or not.
Good thing I didn’t say you must vote for a certain person or party. Keep making excuses.