If it were truly undetectable, I don’t think they’d bother. They want to look like one of Trump’s lumpen-faced groupies or a washed up Las Vegas magician. Their Hellraisered faces are like a meat-based country club membership card.

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    It’s definitely a status thing, but I think the extreme it’s been taken to has more to do with an erosion and warping of reasonable beauty standards than anything. More of an act of “because I can” than anything. I think a lot of the people who you look at and think “what the fuck” actually think they are making themselves more beautiful and attractive. I don’t think someone who has everything and can get whatever they want would purposely make themselves look grotesque, but I’m neither rich, nor a psychologist, so maybe I’m totally wrong…

    It’s kind of like how there’s a gaudy stupid looking hyper-expensive version of everything, like those giant hideous watches with diamonds encrusted on every surface… Someone think’s it’s beautiful or shows status, but most of us probably just think it looks stupid.

    The Bogdanoffification has been happening for a while…

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      I have a dentist office near me that also offers Botox. There’s also a boulevard that has a billboard advertising it. My area is not exactly considered the most affluent of areas.

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        I worked at a dental lab once and we had a patient who The doctor said wanted bigger teeth.

        Having made teeth for a while, this was a first for everyone in the lab. At some point teeth don’t get much bigger. At some point the amount of metal and porcelain were putting into the mouth of this 82-year-old woman is a substantial weight of material not to mention its volume.

        When one doctor refused to make any bigger teeth she went to other doctors who required her to pay up front. We got this lady’s case back a dozen times.

        We’ve remade this thing from scratch at her expense and she looked downright cartoonish every time we’d get photos back.

        The frame for her full arch mandibular implant retained PFM was the single largest cast of gold alloy anyone in the entire lab had ever poured or seen poured for dental work.

        Some people have money and they’re addicted to the process. I can’t think of any other reason for this lady to have done that.

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        It’s about $200 if you just want to calm down your resting bitch face for a few months. And women are criticized about equally for having RBF as for getting “work done.” Minimal Botox isn’t nearly as obvious as most people seem to think, so why not?

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        It can fall under the same umbrella. Unrealistic beauty standards being set by the “rich”, who some people look up to as role models. If there were something that you could do that you might be able to afford, like botox or lip fillers, that you believe would make you more beautiful, closer to your role model… If that sort of thing matters to you, then yeah, you might go for it. I can even take the same analogy of watches above, because there are definitely cheap imitation versions of the gaudy diamond-encrusted ones.

        I was sort of thinking more like this though with respect to extreme alterations…

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        Botox doesn’t have to be expensive and ridiculous. Last gf was cute as shit at 50-yo. She’d just get a few pokes every 3-6 months. Her face wasn’t plastic or unnatural, you’d never know. Maybe a bad example as she hadn’t had shots for months after I met her and she didn’t have wrinkles to speak off.

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    It’s not much different from these:

    All are visible indicators of culture and/or status

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    The rich ladies getting square “Chad” jaws really throw me off. I don’t understand the appeal, who wants a super wide chin?

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      Might be the same mindset my ex had.

      “Can I wear your Axe?”

      “no…why would you want to?”

      “I like how it smells.”

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    I guess you might have a point with rich people & their…ugly, inhuman body modification. But I have a solidly middle, middle-upper class friend that spent $8K+ on hair plugs. Just because his hair was thinning. That was the discounted rate. And it looks good tbh, but now he looks just like any other schmuck with hair & he’s out $8K+ for that.

    (I told him to get really cool tattoos instead)

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      That was remarkably well done how they handled that material, especially with how much of a joke American Dad makes things (which it should its a comedy cartoon but still).

      I have to keep checking my weight on the scales and referring against the BMI charts because of that. I am fat right now, but looking back at pictures of myself I was very skinny for a while, but have always felt fat as fuck.

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    Whatever they think they’re signaling, terrible plastic surgery only makes me think they’re lavishly gaudy, self-absorbed, and have a distorted view that makes them do terrible decisions for themselves.

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    Good plastic surgery is largely unnoticed. Bad plastic surgery is almost a style unto itself that is for some reason desired by certain groups.

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    You’ve never seen the after-effects of someone who actually got surgery to change smaller things. Those aren’t obvious, but they are incredibly common. The rare few who do it so often that it makes them unrecognizable as natural just stand out from it all the more because of how successful it is for regular people.

    The other part of it is that body issues often lie to you about what is good/bad about yourself, and they don’t always stop doing that just because you changed it to what you thought you wanted. If you have the money for it, that can be a very vicious cycle all on its own. Don’t get me wrong; I do things to alter my appearance regularly as well, you just have to be careful not to let the intrusive thoughts win where you can.

    I think the rich people who make themselves that aweful looking through so many surgeries likely need help; I don’t expect very many of them to be happy about the result at all.

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    Cosmetic surgery isn’t limited to the rich. You can get cosmetic surgery after an injury (ie. Burn)

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      That’s called plastic surgery, rather than cosmetic. Cosmetic is specifically to improve your appearance. Plastics include a lot of reconstructive work.

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    Yeah, the people who want Mar a Lago face (Google it) will get that.

    But if other plastic surgery is undetectable then how would you know whether anyone has had it?

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      Agreed. I’m not advocating for it, but subtle surgery with a reasonably skilled practitioner often flies under the radar if you didn’t know the person. The most common things like nose jobs and face lifts are almost routine at this point.

      It’s not for me, but there is a confirmation bias around plastic surgery where bad results are highly visible and good results are almost invisible.

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        Its like when people say “I can always spot trans people”. Yeah you’ve spotted 100% of the ones you’ve spotted.

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    This is correct. The look is referred to as “mar-a-lago face” and it fits in the long tradition of extreme elite modification to the head, like artificial cranial deformation.

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    Not sure if they are making the right message with the plastic surgery… They think they either look beautiful now or signal they have money to do it and all us normal people do is think how fucking ugly they look now and despite all the money they look like fucking zombies. And I straight up don’t understand some.

    Most obvious recent one was the actress Erin Moriarty playing Starlight in The Boys. I thought she was so freakin cute in the first seasons. I’m not even that into blondes and she was really cute. Then came Season 3 or 4 and I was horrified to see her facelift. I was like “girl, what in the hell have you done to yourself?!”. And every scene she was in all I could see were her sharp cheek bones, her weird eyes, her overblown lips. It was so bad I almost didn’t want to see her in any dialogue anymore. Is that what rich people want? To look repulsive?