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I really want the pandemic—the hundreds of millions with Long Covid, the tens of millions dead—to mean something. Like cleaner indoor air, normalised masking, funding for post-viral illnesses. Instead, we got mask bans, disability cuts and an anti-vaxxer in the White House

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    3 days ago

    The pandemic was extremely profitable. It would be an horrible mistake to try preventing the next one. /s

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      The pandemic was extremely profitable.

      And I’m sure the tariffs will be profitable too. And since companies aren’t being transparent about them, what’s their motivation to stop charging extra even if the tariffs are removed in the future?

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        I remember the bananas. They were 1-2 dollars a kilo for a long time. Then there was flooding and storms on the banana farms. Prices went up over 10 dollars a kilo. People complained but were told, it was the natural disaster and it’s going to come down. Years later bananas haven’t been cheaper than 4 dollars a kilo.

        Supermarkets found the sweet spot where people would still buy bananas, and they make the most profit.

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      Another one wouldn’t have that same effect. There wouldn’t be a general lockdown and it would be mostly business as usual except in some areas.

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    I live in a pretty progressive place (for the US anyway) and I was so blown away with how popular the “get everything back to normal” push was by a lot of people.

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    2 days ago

    This is what happens when you “respect the opinions” of garbage people. Things will change when we stop pretending it’s somehow enlightened to provide everyone a platform.

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      Those are specifically bad for masks because the loose material is one of the worst for breathing filtration. A few restaurants used them but they were discouraged in a lot of official guidance later on.

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    Back when the pandemic was still going, I thought how nice it was that mankind got a ‘test pandemic’. One you could keep in check with reasonable effort.

    Now that I’ve seen how many anti-vaxxers that pandemic produced and how it eroded trust in health institutes, I believe that is wasn’t a test, not even a warning, but a first strike to weaken mankind, only for the next pandemic to be more effective.

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    2 days ago

    when i first saw this post i had just woken up and i skipped a few words and thought it said “i want tens of millions dead”

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    I’m not sure that anyone can convince me that the democrats didn’t fuck this up, and aren’t going full steam towards continuing to fuck up. It’s like showing up to a dance competition totally unprepared because your only competitor is an elderly, drunken rodeo clown, and then getting beaten by the clown. What do you think, then? Do you say to yourself “man, fuck those idiot judges”? Or do you stop and go “maybe I’m the problem?” Because the democrats have chosen the former.

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      I think you are right, but also feel like it’s a too narrow view. Other places which aren’t the US have the same kinds of things going on.

      In my personal experience and amateur opinion, people have swung back. During the pandemic, especially at the start it was all about protecting each other, caring for each other. About doing stuff for the greater good, limiting freedom of what you can and can’t do, not to help yourself but to help others. There was always this group which resisted that, but as the pandemic went on, it got harder and harder for more people. You saw people ignoring masks and hygiene rules and doing what they felt like, especially near the “end” of the pandemic. Even the people that really cared and tried (me amongst them), there was a mental fatigue and mistakes slipped in. And I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for young folk.

      When the pandemic was declared to be over, there was this real shift in people’s attitudes. People got more selfish and less worried about stuff like personal space and basic hygiene. Especially since the pandemic wasn’t really over, a lot of people felt like it was all bullshit. We could have just declared it over way sooner and they could have gotten on with their lives. I’ve seen people buy bigger, less environmentally friendly cars. Buy loud motorcycles. Eat more meat, use more energy and water. Be rude to people all the time, be rude to people in services. Let their kids do whatever. Play more loud music.

      It’s like people got so tired of caring for others, they feel like the world owes them what they want for themselves.

      Of course there are many other factors, like the insane amount of social media people consume and what that does to their brains. The big media companies driving what people need to think. Pressure from wars and climate change, driving up refugee numbers etc. etc. But for me personally, I feel like the swing back from the pandemic has had a big impact.

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    Liberals in 2021: “Haha! Boomer remover! Republicans committed suicide. Demographics is Destiny! Now we can kick back and win every election by default without doing anything useful.”

    Liberals in 2025: “Damn, I guess you stupid fuckers just love coughing. We all deserve to die. Now I’m going to kick back and lose every election by default without trying to do anything useful.”

    Leftists The Whole Fucking Time: “We’re distributing masks at the corner of Fifth and Main, food at the pantry in the Third Ward, and marksmanship classes at you-know-where. Stay safe, we love you all, and the struggle will continue.”

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      1. Happy Cake day
      2. Rip lemm.ee
      3. This isn’t happening because your average Joe gobbled up anti-vax propaganda. This is happening because the capitalist elite saw an economic slowdown during lockdowns and funded and pushed all sorts of conspiracies. The anti-vaxx, COVID denialist movement didn’t emerge grassroots. It was systematically pushed and promoted by the most powerful people to protect their interests.
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        No one asked for your fAcTs! Now get out of here and let us get back to making shit up!!

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        This is the type of thing where the vast majority will recover within 6-12 months and often a small percent will have ongoing chronic symptoms. But we’re learning a lot about post virus chronic symptoms which also seem to happen with other virus but it was harder to tell since it was a baseline normal.

        https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/04/18/long-covid-like-symptoms-can-happen-after-the-flu-too-heres-how-to-prevent-both/

        For 12 weeks, researchers followed nearly 2,200 adults who had been diagnosed with lab-confirmed COVID, and nearly 1,000 adults who had been diagnosed with lab-confirmed flu. Of those who experienced Omicron, a fifth (21%) had ongoing symptoms at 12 weeks, and 4% reported symptoms that had a moderate or severe impact on daily living.

        When it came to those who had experienced the flu, the numbers were almost identical, with 23% reporting ongoing symptoms at 12 weeks, and 4% reporting moderate or severe impacts on daily living.

        But there’s a reason why long COVID is having an outsized impact on the healthcare system, researchers from Queensland Health said in a news release: the sheer volume of COVID infections.

        There have been more than 11 million lab-confirmed COVID infections over Australia in the last three years, according to the World Health Organization—a number that is likely a massive undercount.

        By comparison, Australia only recorded only a little more than 225,000 lab-confirmed cases of flu last year.

        “In our highly vaccinated population, the public health impact of long COVID does not appear to result from any unique property of SARS-CoV-2,” Dr. John Gerrard, Queensland’s chief health officer, said in the release. “Rather, the impact results from the sheer number of people infected over a short period of time.”