I wish they’d be used to help people with agonizing depression and help them to feel like a person again. Not so people can just abuse them to get high.
You can’t always seperate all these things out. I do it rarely because its sort of a severe experience (physically, def gonna throw up at least once and the pee-inhibition is terrible, plus walking and eyes are weird) but I need a reset every now and again when I get in a rut. It can also be pleasently disorienting in a way that makes you really question some of the insignificant sideshows we get distracted by.
It realy shouldn’t matter altho I agree that people shouldn’t use it as a party drug. It should be more like one of those glass windows with a defribillator and you smash it when you need it but its seen as a pain in the ass to access for frivolous means.
But everyone should have easy access and not in ways that maximize side effects or difficulty. Its the biggest shame in the world that so many lives and time were lost because of dumb drug war propaganda that arbitrarily restricts people in such a silly way.
I think allowing people who abuse them to, well, abuse them is an acceptable byproduct of also helping meaningfully treated various other peoples depression.
Eh, ket destroyed my friend’s life for almost a decade. He was shooting it, hooking to afford gear and sucking his landlord’s dick to have somewhere to stay. Broke into his mum’s house and stole anything of value. Did time, cleaned up, and is now sober. I think if we’re going to open up these drugs for free use, we need to build effective support systems so that recreational use doesn’t turn into abuse to the extent that its destroying the lives of the abuser and those of everyone around them.
Okay, but didn’t that happen in an environment where ket was not legally available for people who may be able to benefit from it? Like…that shit already happens. And yeah it sucks.
Do you not feel he would have benefited from it being legal when he attempted to seek treatment? Might he have had less motivation to steal and suck his landlords dick if the illegal market didn’t make the drugs so cost prohibitive?
I wish they’d be used to help people with agonizing depression and help them to feel like a person again. Not so people can just abuse them to get high.
You can’t always seperate all these things out. I do it rarely because its sort of a severe experience (physically, def gonna throw up at least once and the pee-inhibition is terrible, plus walking and eyes are weird) but I need a reset every now and again when I get in a rut. It can also be pleasently disorienting in a way that makes you really question some of the insignificant sideshows we get distracted by.
It realy shouldn’t matter altho I agree that people shouldn’t use it as a party drug. It should be more like one of those glass windows with a defribillator and you smash it when you need it but its seen as a pain in the ass to access for frivolous means.
But everyone should have easy access and not in ways that maximize side effects or difficulty. Its the biggest shame in the world that so many lives and time were lost because of dumb drug war propaganda that arbitrarily restricts people in such a silly way.
I think allowing people who abuse them to, well, abuse them is an acceptable byproduct of also helping meaningfully treated various other peoples depression.
It’s not one or the other.
Eh, ket destroyed my friend’s life for almost a decade. He was shooting it, hooking to afford gear and sucking his landlord’s dick to have somewhere to stay. Broke into his mum’s house and stole anything of value. Did time, cleaned up, and is now sober. I think if we’re going to open up these drugs for free use, we need to build effective support systems so that recreational use doesn’t turn into abuse to the extent that its destroying the lives of the abuser and those of everyone around them.
Okay, but didn’t that happen in an environment where ket was not legally available for people who may be able to benefit from it? Like…that shit already happens. And yeah it sucks.
Do you not feel he would have benefited from it being legal when he attempted to seek treatment? Might he have had less motivation to steal and suck his landlords dick if the illegal market didn’t make the drugs so cost prohibitive?