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    gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de to memes@lemmy.world · 14 days ago

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    • saltnotsugar@lemmy.world
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      I think the problem is we don’t have huge ol crickets that are lobster sized. Otherwise you’d have Red Locust and all you can eat grasshopper legs.

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        Unlimited soup, salad, and stickbugs.

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        Yeah it’s this. We don’t eat the shells/outsides of lobster (at least most probably don’t). I don’t want to eat exoskeleton.

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          Yeah, chitin is really hard to digest and sensitive stomachs will have issues.

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            Cricket powder is good fucking sports nutrition, tho

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              I’m almost positive the chitin is filtered out somehow. Or hell, maybe it’s left in there for some reason by design.

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                So it’s possible!

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              I tried cricket protein bars once and they made me shit like a horse. The chitin is not separated from the protein, and it is a LOT of fiber.

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                Not sure if that’s a positive or negative, horses seem to shit pretty good

              • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                The pure carnivores have a way to poop healthy?

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        I think the problem is we don’t have huge ol crickets that are lobster sized.

        take it back

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        Idk. There are some big fucking snails out there

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          Snails are good, too. Creamy and tender, reminded me of scallops.

          They were doused in butter/garlic, so that may have been part of the reason, but still

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          Snails are used in some cuisines (France). I’ve had them. They’re not bad.

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            Snails are an excuse for the French to down a stick of butter.

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            Yeah, I’ve tried escargot and can definitely recommend.

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              Had it at a fancy French restaurant. I was interested in the fact that they’re essentially boiled in butter and herbs(?) but my brain 100% did not connect the dots as I forked one and bit in. Burned my mouth so fuckin bad I went through 2 glasses of ice water just so I could taste the halibut special I accidentally spent $70 on.

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          Yeah but they’re molluscs.

      • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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        They’re different enough by size and their habitat that we don’t encounter them as primates so logically we don’t have any reason to have an aversion instinct. Regular insects can be poisonous or parasites but these don’t really look like insects.

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      The line of arthropods that broke off to become Insecta did so in the Devonian Period, roughly 400 million years ago. Centipedes evolved in the fucking Silurian. Comparing these two groups is kinda like comparing raccoons, possums, and platypuses to fish.

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        It’s almost as absurd as comparing fish to fish

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          fish aren’t even real

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            You’re a fish

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              Oh fuck

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            Ichthyophobia isn’t cool. Take your hateful beliefs elsewhere.

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        Tell yourself what er you need to in order to enjoy that crawfish.

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          dont need to tell anything just need to eat it

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          I’ll tell myself it’s juicy and delicious

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            Ignorance is bliss

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              Oh, I know exactly where my food lives on the tree of life

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                Oh I thought you were doing a Matrix reference

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                  Damn I can’t believe I missed that. Sorry lol

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                    I can see that, I made it more obvious

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                Somewhere in your lower bowel after a good dinner

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        They are more similar that at least I used to think.

        https://youtu.be/bt7nC52GrmM

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        Shrimps is bugs!

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      I don’t eat cereal without milk, so why would I eat my bugs without saltwater.

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        You should try it, I like the crunch

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      Idk where this myth started from but shrimp and lobsters are crustaceans, a separate class of arthropods within the phylum arthropoda. arthropoda is a massive phylum and bugs belong to the class insecta. lobsters and shrimp belong to crustacea so calling shrimp bugs is like calling whales hippos because they’re both from the clade artiodactyla /nerdmode off

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        One of the definitions of bug is “small arthropod with many legs”

        Take your nerdmode into the shop, its database is defective.

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        Shrimps is bugs!

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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        i think it’s like “tree” and “fish”, which is not a phylogenetic group but a certain shape/form/expression.

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        Insects are crustaceans. As are isopods. Interestingly, spiders are not

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        Actually, hexapoda was moved taxonomically to be classed as Crustaceans due to new research. The new clade is called Pancrustacea. Insects can now properly be called “terrestrial crustaceans”

        I would however like to point out that literally none of the pictured animals are bugs.

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      Fixing the bugs

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      one side takes regular baths.

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      lukewarm coffee: gross

      hot coffee: great

      it’s almost as if different things are different

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        You mentioned the same thing, at different temperatures. It’s literally the same THING.

        A shrimp is not the same thing as a Megaloblatta Longipennis.

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          Thought you were just shitposting with that name…

          Now I just wish you were.

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          Ice is just water at a different temperature.

          The difference being even bigger between crustaceans and bugs just makes my point stronger.

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      i Don’t eat cereal without bugs, why would i eat my Water without Them?

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      Shrimps are fuckin pointy

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        Shrimps are pretty rich

    • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Are we suggesting that Scorpion would taste similar to lobster?

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        They’re different, scorpion isn’t as sweet as lobster meat.

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          I think I read somewhere that tarantulas taste like shrimp

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        You’ll have to ask Reptile.

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        Supposedly cincadas and pill bugs taste just like shrimp.

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      I used to love shrimp but in the past few years I’ve started going off it, not sure why.

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        Non-alarmist answer: tastes can change over time for no real reason. Some mild reasons it could change is pallet fatigue, prep and cook time seeming not worth it and so you crave it less, and changes in overall perception. A person who is slowly becoming vegan for moral or health reasons will naturally stop wanting certain meat products.

        Alarmist answer: I don’t know man. You’ve probably got some weird cancer or something.

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          *palate fatigue

          I work in wine importing so this is a mistake I make all the damn time.

          pallet- thing used to strap stuff to so they can be put on containers (for container trucks and ships).

          palate - roof of your mouth or an alternate word for your taste

          Palette- painter’s thing for holding paint.

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            Speech to text strikes again.

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          Increasingly alarmist answer: you’ve heard about eyestalk ablation and it’s subconsciously ruining your enjoyment of farmed shrimp

          • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            The fucking horrors we do. Hey if we give them anaesthetic before we burn out their eyes they seem less distressed. Fucking gross.

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        Maybe it’s because you now know they are bugs

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        Lack of deveining?

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      Im only down with eating clean bugs that are large enough to have enough substance to be worthwhile or whatever makes it into processed foods and “foods” that I eat (jelly beans arent really food and frequently have shellac and that comes from a specific beetle.)

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      Counterpoint: lobster is delicious

      Why are you okay eating cow meat and not house cat meat?

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        House cats: overwhelming over weight so mostly fat. And not the type that pigs and cows are. Feral cats: riddled with diseases and malnourished.

        Cows: mostly muscle and with a marbling of fat.

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          Wow so what youre saying is that youre okay eating one but not the other because one tastes better?

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            Buddy that’s the first step in eating literally anything.

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              And that’s supposed to be your counterargument to my original comment?

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                Are you having a stroke?

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            Motherfucker, im not gonna eat gruel everyday, I’d rather eat a hamburger or a salad. Yeah, we choose what we eat for three reason. How safe it is to consume, how nutritional it is, and most importantly, how fucking tasty it is.

            Beef is fucking tasty. If it wasn’t, people wouldn’t eat it.

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            Frankly, if you’re looking at the morality of eating meat, this is as good a stance as any.

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        Why are you making assumptions about what I’m ok with?

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        I don’t eat either of them

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        Availability is likely a factor here. House cats are everywhere, but professionally prepared cat meat is not. If it was in the cooler at your local walmart and priced comparably to beef, we’d see a lot more people eating cat. If the taste and texture are better than beef, we’d probably even start to see a market shift as more and more people start thinking of them as food instead of pets.

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          You can’t discount the role that tradition plays in that. Because mutton and goat would have replaced beef decades ago.

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            I wish mutton and goat were more available near me. Lamb can be had but I want bigger cuts for stew or curry.

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            All the cultures that do raise those as their primary meats prefer beef.

            You’re actually just interested in novelty.

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        Well, I can’t fit a cow in my house, and it’s not generally cute and cuddly, so it must die instead. But seriously though, are cats even delicious?

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          cow [… i]s not generally cute and cuddly

          You couldn’t be further from the truth.

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            Fiiiiine, they are cute. And maaaaaybe cuddly, even though they tend to smell if they’ve been outside all day. And they are delicious.

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              even though they tend to smell if they’ve been outside all day.

              So do cats and dogs.

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                Yes, but I keep my cats inside, so they smell really nice. Too nice… maybe I do want to eat them after all.

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      Technically modern insects are descended from shrimp and lobster, so this is bugs good vs dry bugs bad

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        No they aren’t lol, nothing alive now is descended from anything else alive now.

        They are somewhat related in the broad scheme of things, but not that close when you dig a bit deeper. They share a common ancestor about 400 million years ago (1, 2), whereas we share a common ancestor with them about 530 million years ago. Considering the more than 2 billion year history of life, you could say we are almost as related to them as they are to each other. It’s true that this was during the Cambrian explosion (3) so we are about as distantly removed from them as animals can be, and differentiation of biological features slowed down a bit after that, but still, true insects and the kinds of crustaceans we mostly eat like shrimps and lobsters have been on different branches of the evolutionary tree for most of the history of animals.

        Of course we (humans) do eat many land insects too, like crickets and so on.

        Here’s a fun zoomable graphic I found while looking up the dates: https://www.onezoom.org/life/@Pancrustacea=985906?otthome=%40%3D770311#x-28,y311,w0.8390

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          Crocos are still here. And sharks.

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          The pic of the “Norway lobster” is of it cooked on a plate with bread XD

          https://www.onezoom.org/life/@Nephrops_norvegicus=737047?otthome=%40%3D770311#x344,y480,w1.0327

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      Sea bugs come pre-seasoned

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