Indigenous communities in the Ring of Fire stand to benefit greatly or suffer dearly in the race for critical minerals. Locals say their opposition to mining is misunderstood.
Canada has a ton of untapped natural resources that he wants to irresponsibly harvest and sell for the fastest profit and growth. A lot of these resoucres are hard to access due to how northern they are but melting sea ice is making northern ports and shipping routes more feasible, increasing access to these remote resources. The times he refers to as “america being great” were times of heavy natural resource extractions and little to no environmental regulations. He is also eying Canada’s vast fresh water supplies.
The Colorado river has customers purchasing more water than the river even has flowing in it. On top of this, very poor water regulation policy means farmers are encouraged to use as much water as they can rather than preserve water when possible because unused water may be taken off of next years allotment. Instead of reworking these policies and discouraging water intensive agriculture cash crops in the area, he’d rather just take Canada’s water.
A big part of this may have started from his ego but strategically America absolutely stands to benefit economically, militarily, and food security wise from annexing Canada. Canadians cannot afford to take these threats lightly.
strategically America absolutely stands to benefit economically, militarily, and food security wise from annexing Canada
I can absolutely completely agree with you there. I’m just saying that Trump doesn’t give even the slightest little bit of a shit about any of those things.
strategically America absolutely stands to benefit economically, militarily, and food security wise from annexing Canada.
Only of you pretend there are no Canadians. Once you factor in the cost of generations of hatred, terrorism, and insurgency from the people America just stabbed on the collective backs, not to mention the international reaction, maybe the old idea of paying for our resources in fair trade would have worked out better.
Average Canadians are not well armed and don’t have as much access to a weapons market as other insurgencies in the past. If america genuinely needs more water at some point, its very likely they are willing to pay those prices. Look how long they fought in places less important than securing water, essential for life. America also doesn’t give a shit if they kill civilians in a bombing run and those numbers could increase if they are trying to send a message. Some of the thirsty Americans would even be cheering the flames if it kept their taps running.
Canada should invest in its own defense and also look into alliances with other nations.
You should look at a map. The headwaters to the rivers you depend on originate in Canada. We currently have agreements on how those rivers are managed, so we all have water. You throw away those agreements? Well I guess we can just dump whatever into those rivers with no fucks given to the Americans that live downstream.
Don’t kid yourself, the US takes military action against Canada and we’re talking guerilla warfare. And guerillas poisoning the wells is something there’s accounts of going back to Roman times. Poisoning a river that flows into enemy lands? No brainer.
And this is the dumbest thing ever. You could buy water (or any other resource) from Canada. This is something your criminal President dreamed up because he has a history of ripping people off whenever he could. You want to be considered the most dishonorable country in history by going to war with a country that just fought alongside you for decades so you can steal some resources?
Bottom line: there were 1,922 Americans killed in Afghanistan. 4,492 killed in Iraq. So Canadians would need to kill between 2000 and 5000 Americans to win the war. I’m willing to fight Americans for decades to get to that number. How long are you willing to fight in a war to help your President Judas betray it’s allies?
I think its foolish to assume that annexing canada is the same scale of warfare as the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.
In the case of occupation, american culture is very similar to canadian culture and they will quickly work to control media to paint any insurgencies as violent and terroristic to normal people.
I think canada’s best course of action is to be ready to respond to an american military threat. It is far easy to be ready to defend than to spur an insurgency.
America could also bomb us back to the stone age as they’ve done in other countries by targeting drinking water, waste water, manufacturing, and communications targets. Destroying a couple railway bridges and highway bridges could rip the nation in half trade wise. Even if we mount a succesful insurgency we’d likely have to rebuild from the ashes. I’d rather us come up with a defense plan to prevent that future.
Critical infrastructure that could easily sabotaged by Canadian guerilla forces, pipelines, waterlines, dams, bridges, electrical infrastructure,etc. We look like you, sound like you and we can get to you.
No idea what OP is saying, but there is historically 0 US investment that Canada has ever said no to. Canadian owned companies have never refused to sell to US, and Canada has been a perfectly good US slave in invoking national security BS against Chinese ownership of resources. US system of colonialism is through private oligarchy, and they have (had) full access to Canada.
So, the resource access argument is complete BS. The blocking Russian access to Arctic passage and resources is also 100% BS. Canadians are already fully programmed to hate Russia, and their only interest in our resources or passage would be as invited friends, sending us goods we happily paid for. Russia has a massive amount of their own undeveloped resources, closer to its/natural trade partner market, and trade with Europe or Africa has no need for Canadian waters access. Traitorous lying filth program you with any stupidity that Russia is a threat to Canada.
I would suggest that Trump does not want to annex Canada. He wants to destroy Canada in order to move manufacturing jobs to US under the false logic that Americans can do everything that Canadians can, and that a destroyed Canada would be willing and able to buy US goods. I doubt that a destroyed Canada would be given same (nice) treatment as east germany during reunification. But East German complaints existed.
Any explanation of Trump’s extortion of Canada, has to be in the context of what the US is unable to get from Canada or get Canada to do. Because no such circumstances exist, it is irrational. Trump, relative to his first presidency, is fully in charge, and he can say complete stupid and illogical stuff without any filter, and the only response to save Canada is industrial policy and international partners to destroy the US economy.
I was interested because it made sense, then a little bit confused about somehow bringing China into it, then I read “Russia” “ Traitorous lying filth” and so on and went back and read the username and it all clicked into place.
Never change buddy. I have no idea how you’ve kept this account going for this long but I’m planning to report this comment.
The “threat to Canadian Arctic” has always been a transparent ploy to baselessly force Canadians to support purchase of overpriced US weapons. It is theft by traitors who hate us. Plenty of Chinese offers to buy/develop resources in Canada were rejected.
Maybe you could stay out of Canada, if you have no awareness of the BS people like you submit us to.
Maybe you could stay out of Canada, if you have no awareness of the BS people like you submit us to.
I know when I talk with Canadians about stuff like “Trump is a dope why is he doing this”, they always start ranting about China and Russia and traitors and theft and hate. It’s a perfectly normal thing to do, and I’m the weird one here. Truly.
I want to start asking you about the slrpnk admins again. Why did you want to involve yourself in standard fare Lemmy drama and why, the only time you got coherent and started trying to make some sense, was it on behalf of one of their strange moderation decisions? Why was that what motivated you to step out of low-effort-chaos land? As far as I can tell, almost literally every other thing you say is this type of schizophrenic nonsense. You’ll start talking about electric vehicles and within one sentence you’re yelling about the US proxy war on Russia and Mexican state sponsored terrorism and Yemen. But the slrpnk moderation drama was a super weird outlier, as minor as it was, and I’m still curious about why that was.
Why did you want to involve yourself in standard fare Lemmy drama and why, the only time you got coherent and started trying to make some sense, was it on behalf of one of their strange moderation decisions?
My interjection on BS oil industry shilling “free speech” was consistent with human sustainability. I don’t consider being anti-war and anti-evil to be schitzo. On topic, the political BS that gets repeated as “Trump motivation” is simply distractive BS. The CIA agents that are platformed in our media to tell us such BS, will in their next breath, advise Canadians that we need to spend 3-5% of our GDP on F35s.
Does a different US agency than the CIA pay you to try to normalize evil and disinformation on lemmy?
Yeah, my funding’s been all in disarray since the Trump cutbacks started. I’ve had to start a whole proxy war in Nicaragua to self-fund the whole thing and it’s been a huge pain in the ass, let me tell you.
Canada has a ton of untapped natural resources that he wants to irresponsibly harvest and sell for the fastest profit and growth. A lot of these resoucres are hard to access due to how northern they are but melting sea ice is making northern ports and shipping routes more feasible, increasing access to these remote resources. The times he refers to as “america being great” were times of heavy natural resource extractions and little to no environmental regulations. He is also eying Canada’s vast fresh water supplies.
The Colorado river has customers purchasing more water than the river even has flowing in it. On top of this, very poor water regulation policy means farmers are encouraged to use as much water as they can rather than preserve water when possible because unused water may be taken off of next years allotment. Instead of reworking these policies and discouraging water intensive agriculture cash crops in the area, he’d rather just take Canada’s water.
A big part of this may have started from his ego but strategically America absolutely stands to benefit economically, militarily, and food security wise from annexing Canada. Canadians cannot afford to take these threats lightly.
I can absolutely completely agree with you there. I’m just saying that Trump doesn’t give even the slightest little bit of a shit about any of those things.
Only of you pretend there are no Canadians. Once you factor in the cost of generations of hatred, terrorism, and insurgency from the people America just stabbed on the collective backs, not to mention the international reaction, maybe the old idea of paying for our resources in fair trade would have worked out better.
Average Canadians are not well armed and don’t have as much access to a weapons market as other insurgencies in the past. If america genuinely needs more water at some point, its very likely they are willing to pay those prices. Look how long they fought in places less important than securing water, essential for life. America also doesn’t give a shit if they kill civilians in a bombing run and those numbers could increase if they are trying to send a message. Some of the thirsty Americans would even be cheering the flames if it kept their taps running.
Canada should invest in its own defense and also look into alliances with other nations.
You should look at a map. The headwaters to the rivers you depend on originate in Canada. We currently have agreements on how those rivers are managed, so we all have water. You throw away those agreements? Well I guess we can just dump whatever into those rivers with no fucks given to the Americans that live downstream.
Don’t kid yourself, the US takes military action against Canada and we’re talking guerilla warfare. And guerillas poisoning the wells is something there’s accounts of going back to Roman times. Poisoning a river that flows into enemy lands? No brainer.
And this is the dumbest thing ever. You could buy water (or any other resource) from Canada. This is something your criminal President dreamed up because he has a history of ripping people off whenever he could. You want to be considered the most dishonorable country in history by going to war with a country that just fought alongside you for decades so you can steal some resources?
Bottom line: there were 1,922 Americans killed in Afghanistan. 4,492 killed in Iraq. So Canadians would need to kill between 2000 and 5000 Americans to win the war. I’m willing to fight Americans for decades to get to that number. How long are you willing to fight in a war to help your President Judas betray it’s allies?
I think its foolish to assume that annexing canada is the same scale of warfare as the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.
In the case of occupation, american culture is very similar to canadian culture and they will quickly work to control media to paint any insurgencies as violent and terroristic to normal people.
I think canada’s best course of action is to be ready to respond to an american military threat. It is far easy to be ready to defend than to spur an insurgency.
America could also bomb us back to the stone age as they’ve done in other countries by targeting drinking water, waste water, manufacturing, and communications targets. Destroying a couple railway bridges and highway bridges could rip the nation in half trade wise. Even if we mount a succesful insurgency we’d likely have to rebuild from the ashes. I’d rather us come up with a defense plan to prevent that future.
Critical infrastructure that could easily sabotaged by Canadian guerilla forces, pipelines, waterlines, dams, bridges, electrical infrastructure,etc. We look like you, sound like you and we can get to you.
No idea what OP is saying, but there is historically 0 US investment that Canada has ever said no to. Canadian owned companies have never refused to sell to US, and Canada has been a perfectly good US slave in invoking national security BS against Chinese ownership of resources. US system of colonialism is through private oligarchy, and they have (had) full access to Canada.
So, the resource access argument is complete BS. The blocking Russian access to Arctic passage and resources is also 100% BS. Canadians are already fully programmed to hate Russia, and their only interest in our resources or passage would be as invited friends, sending us goods we happily paid for. Russia has a massive amount of their own undeveloped resources, closer to its/natural trade partner market, and trade with Europe or Africa has no need for Canadian waters access. Traitorous lying filth program you with any stupidity that Russia is a threat to Canada.
I would suggest that Trump does not want to annex Canada. He wants to destroy Canada in order to move manufacturing jobs to US under the false logic that Americans can do everything that Canadians can, and that a destroyed Canada would be willing and able to buy US goods. I doubt that a destroyed Canada would be given same (nice) treatment as east germany during reunification. But East German complaints existed.
Any explanation of Trump’s extortion of Canada, has to be in the context of what the US is unable to get from Canada or get Canada to do. Because no such circumstances exist, it is irrational. Trump, relative to his first presidency, is fully in charge, and he can say complete stupid and illogical stuff without any filter, and the only response to save Canada is industrial policy and international partners to destroy the US economy.
I was interested because it made sense, then a little bit confused about somehow bringing China into it, then I read “Russia” “ Traitorous lying filth” and so on and went back and read the username and it all clicked into place.
Never change buddy. I have no idea how you’ve kept this account going for this long but I’m planning to report this comment.
The “threat to Canadian Arctic” has always been a transparent ploy to baselessly force Canadians to support purchase of overpriced US weapons. It is theft by traitors who hate us. Plenty of Chinese offers to buy/develop resources in Canada were rejected.
Maybe you could stay out of Canada, if you have no awareness of the BS people like you submit us to.
I know when I talk with Canadians about stuff like “Trump is a dope why is he doing this”, they always start ranting about China and Russia and traitors and theft and hate. It’s a perfectly normal thing to do, and I’m the weird one here. Truly.
I want to start asking you about the slrpnk admins again. Why did you want to involve yourself in standard fare Lemmy drama and why, the only time you got coherent and started trying to make some sense, was it on behalf of one of their strange moderation decisions? Why was that what motivated you to step out of low-effort-chaos land? As far as I can tell, almost literally every other thing you say is this type of schizophrenic nonsense. You’ll start talking about electric vehicles and within one sentence you’re yelling about the US proxy war on Russia and Mexican state sponsored terrorism and Yemen. But the slrpnk moderation drama was a super weird outlier, as minor as it was, and I’m still curious about why that was.
My interjection on BS oil industry shilling “free speech” was consistent with human sustainability. I don’t consider being anti-war and anti-evil to be schitzo. On topic, the political BS that gets repeated as “Trump motivation” is simply distractive BS. The CIA agents that are platformed in our media to tell us such BS, will in their next breath, advise Canadians that we need to spend 3-5% of our GDP on F35s.
Does a different US agency than the CIA pay you to try to normalize evil and disinformation on lemmy?
Yeah, my funding’s been all in disarray since the Trump cutbacks started. I’ve had to start a whole proxy war in Nicaragua to self-fund the whole thing and it’s been a huge pain in the ass, let me tell you.
Good news that nicaragua war has yet to hit my news feed. Starving couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Ask to get in on that sweet Panama operation.