It’s strange the way resigning seems to be treated as some sort of protest in and of itself. It’s not. It’s giving up. Protest would be refusing to resign, refusing to obey orders, and delegitimizating the people giving those orders.
Resigning just makes it easier for someone less principled to come along and do the job.
I’m not sure. I can see it both ways. If you’ve ever worked in a place where a bunch of people in important roles quit, it fucks the place up usually in pretty significant ways.
Maybe the best of all the options is “stay on, agree to everything, but go full fascism-resistance-field-manual in trying to actively undermine everything that anyone tries to do.” IDK if that goes into the newspapers when it happens though.
It’s one thing when everybody quits Starbucks. It’s another when everybody who might do the right thing resigns from all the positions of power.
That’s great, really. But I still find it a bit ironic for federal prosecutors to take a stand on refusing to admit something they don’t want to admit, when that’s what they force most of the people they prosecute to do. Plea or rot in jail is their go-to strategy…
Still the right decision, but these are not heroes…just people who made the right call for a change.
Well, the system is that they go hard after convictions, and there’s a counterbalancing force on the other side that goes hard after acquittals. It’s not really a wrong system, it is the best design we’ve come up with. There are horrible inequities in how it gets applied, but it’s mostly a matter of (1) laws getting made in a way that perverts justice on behalf of the rich (2) the prosecution getting the full resources it needs to go hard in 100% of cases, and the defense only getting those resources if the client is wealthy and otherwise “lol good luck sucker.”
I don’t think you can blame the prosecutors for doing their jobs (assuming they’re not breaking the rules in how they do it) under that system.
I don’t think you can blame the prosecutors for doing their jobs (assuming they’re not breaking the rules in how they do it) under that system.
I think I can, too. This smacks of “just following orders,” or “just playing the game.” They knowingly and deliberately screw people for no good reason.
It does occasionally happen that people get accused of a crime because they, in fact, committed a crime. Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Peter Navarro, Charles Manson, all those school shooters, the guy that broke into your car last year, drunk drivers, wife-beaters, a lot of people go through the court system because they in fact did do something wrong.
Without a system where a defense lawyer could argue vigorously to try to prove their innocence, no one who knowingly and deliberately got screwed for no good reason would have a chance to prove their innocence. Without someone on the other side trying to prove their guilt, it wouldn’t work either. Again, I do think there are huge injustices built in to our current “justice” system, I actually completely agree with you on that. I just think that prosecutors doing their job isn’t one of them.
Prosecuting is fine. It’s when they have all the resources, and the defendant has a Public Defender getting paid practically nothing, and has practically no time to prepare, but the prosecution come at them like they are OJ Simpson that I have an issue.
Why are you lecturing me? What’s my point #2 say up in the parent comment?
Why are you lecturing me?
It’s what we traditionally refer to as “a discussion.” We hone our thoughts and opinions on each other’s until they match, or until we get tired of doing so, or until we decide we do not wish to, or cannot, learn any further from each other.
What’s my point #2 say, up in the parent comment?
The problem isn’t them arguing to the best of their ability that the accused is guilty. The problem is trying to stack so many years of prison into the charge that the accused pleads out because it’s safer to serve 5 years for something you didn’t do than risk 20 years trying to prove your innocence. That’s not justice.
Yeah. That’s one of the big inequities built into the system. You basically have to have tons of resources for a good lawyer, and an ironclad way to prove your innocence, and also be willing to roll the dice that you won’t get fucked for life anyway just because you got unlucky in the trial. If you don’t have all three of those things, you’re fucked from the start even if you didn’t do anything.
