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      Im pro union but actual teamsters are fucking idiots. Shop steward at my work has a hammer and sickle, Trump, and Teamster sticker on his bumper sticker.

      Dude, you make $38/hr plus $8/hr pension but you really want to make $14/hr like the warehouse next to us?

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        I’m a school bus driver and we’re Teamsters; most of my co-workers are rabidly pro-union and just as rabidly pro-Trump. A few are even lesbians and pro-Trump. It just doesn’t make any sense, except for the fact that they’re so racist they even hate Chinese food.

        BTW our union is why we make $30 an hour plus benefits like health insurance and a pension instead of the $18 an hour with no benefits that the drivers in neighboring districts who work for private bus companies make.

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    Ah, the ol’ “If suck up enough surely the leopard won’t eat my face” strategy. That’s never gone wrong.

    Seriously, who would expect Trump to be a man of his word or show even a shred of loyalty at this point? His presidency was full of him talking up somebody as a being great, loyal and brilliant, then in a month or two he’d chuck them under the bus at the first signs of trouble.

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      This just in, hang on I’m receiving breaking news!

      It seems as if all Republicans have ripped out their own eyes to make their misguided views more plausible, back to you Tom.

      Oh wait, one second Tom, I think they’re all just comically gullible.

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    I don’t see an issue with this, despite how this and other articles are trying to frame this. I’d be more upset if a national labor union wasn’t trying to talk to all political parties and officials. That’s literally their entire purpose, to act as a voice for their members to employers and politicians. Sticking their head in the sand because a party historically hasn’t been helpful doesn’t do anything. Trying to maintain an open dialog despite that history to try and change things is what they should be doing.

    Trump historically has been anti-labor, and likely ain’t going to change, but that doesn’t mean you ignore the politician or the party entirely. Or even try to provoke them like some people seem to be advocating they do. That’s just a stupid idea that creates irrational enemies you can’t even talk to anymore, and that’s the last thing you want when trying to lobby for your members.

    The Teamsters asked to speak at both conventions, the DNC still hasn’t responded. If anything, this says more about the DNC than many people seem to realize to be honest. Yet again they seem to be assuming certain groups will fall in line behind them just because they’re the only other option. Ignoring things like voter apathy and that there’s a decent chunk of people that only vote out of spite rather than for what they want, and blatantly ignoring their needs means turning a potential undecided or non-voter voters against them instead.

    If we’ve learned anything over these last few years, it’s that people are angry and will also vote against their own interests, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. We can’t rely on logic and/or historical results or precedent to predict the future anymore. The old ways simply don’t apply like they used to, that’s been evident in so many polls being wildly inaccurate to election outcomes the last few elections.

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    The teamsters president and trump can go fuck themselves. Capital will never be an ally to labor despite the bullshit they spew

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    This makes sense. Frankly the Teamsters union leadership would be negligent in not trying to court Trump. There’s a political realignment going on right now as more working class people are shifting to the Republicans, and urban upper-middle class to the Democrats. If union leadership refuses to budge, they may find their membership drifting away.