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      I think it’s more a case of “you know times are bad when even Reagan looks good compared to this…” rather than praise.

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        Fuck that, if I could wave a magic wand and suffocate a future President in their crib, it would be Ronnie, not Donnie.

        Without what Reagan did to our culture, politics, and economy, we wouldnt have had a population ignorant enough to elect Trump once, let alone twice.

        Turns out starving public education and allowing big corpo to call any self-serving lie “news” without regulation makes one nation under duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

        Without investing in education, a nation has only failure and collapse to look forward do.

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      I dunno if this counts as ‘praising’ him.

      There was that one quote that directly flamed trump, so that was kinda fun even though yeah he got the credit for it.

      I mean - Reagan’s reign was the jump-off-the-cliff that ruined America for generations but for the most part he wasn’t as stupid or as evil as this fuckin guy.

      That’s the faintest praise I can come up with.

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      I know its crazy how they think he was good person when trump played the same card he did. Reagan did a deal with the iranaians and trump did a deal with isreal. While reagan was telling them to tear down that wall he was shifting the tax burden away from the 1%. Same shithead different era.

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            It took a lot more than Reagan. Trump is the consequence of the last 50 years of Republican (and Democrat, but less so) politics.

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              Reagan destroyed way more than trump has so far. He gutted the tax base for the benefit of the wealthy and put the burden on the middle class. He got rid of the national mental health networks leading to the current homeless crisis. Trump is only possible because of the actions Reagan took. No matter which one is better or worse.

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          If Trump didn’t get a second term, then Reagan probably goes down as having done more net damage to the country. Now it’s anyone’s game.

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      It’s a famous quote that most people know to set up the punchline. I wouldn’t look more into it than that.

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      Reagan/Welch destroyed the United States irrevocably.

      Trump/Elon are just vultures picking its well rotted corpse clean.

      Trump is a just big dumb animal who has been using his wealth to leverage confidence schemes his whole life, and used his instincts as a grifter to steal the Republican base from the old guard Republicans. He really doesn’t deserve as much credit as he gets. It was Reagan that furthered the Welch corpo vision of paying off both major parties, and convincing the peasants to vote against their own interests with the promise(aka lie to the suckers they see as less than human) of golden showers of prosperity into today. This was happening with or without Donnie. If anything we can see more of what’s going on than establishment, old money conservatives would have allowed because Trump is a big, dumb, loud animal.

      This country wasn’t over as of last November. This country was over as of November 1979.

      What is needed is mass acceptance of that, and for smaller nations to emerge. Let the Science/reason/empathy have some land and build a nation, and let hatred/bigotry/willful ignorance/religion have some land and build a nation.

      I think we all know who’ll be eating and who’ll be declaring war on the smarties to steal their food in a decade or two.

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          yes. It was an episode of incompetence and mass hysteria that caused the wall to come down. The Warsaw Pact really didnt care about what Ronnie had said

          TLDR German Media misreported a change in policy in regards to the Berlin border zone, tens of thousands of people showed up and some just started climbing over the wall or walking right through the gates en masse, and the guards decided -not- to just mow everyone down, a few hours later they were smashing the wall down with hammers. it was a snowball effect

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    “The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here”

    –Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address

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      It fucking sucks that Trump’s first term was the good old days compared to now.

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    I remember in 2004 some conservatives were complaining about rhe coarsening of language by president’s. Even citing Bush’s ‘come on let’s roll’ style and words.

    Bush had a really stupid way of speaking that was widely mocked and a penchant for neolinguisms but he was never to the extent of DJT.