Incorrect, see below for many examples and arguments
It was a clear example of our political system failing and capitulating to capital interests
Absolutely correct
the fact that it exists … is emblematic of the utter and complete failure of the American political system
You’d rather it didn’t exist?
is in fact arguably the only liberal polical “success” in my lifetime
The IRA reduced climate change emissions by about 40% from the peak.
Income inequality has actually been going down for the last few years, is that not a good thing?
Marijuana is legal now.
It’s not really “legislative,” so maybe this is sort of backing up what you were arguing in fact, but policing changed radically between 2014 and 2021, to the point that a lot of the abuses that were commonplace in 2014 actually are now these crazy outliers, and are usually punished with criminal charges for the cops.
I’ve talked before about how I feel like there are people who like to “paint the tape” of a comments section by leaving a handful of super-forceful comments in one particular direction, to paint the narrative they like to paint, if the comments section starts to develop in a way that they don’t like. Try sorting by “top” and compare it to the current comments section, if you want to get a better picture of what the consensus is.
I notice that whenever there’s a huge discrepancy between how the comments look in the default sort, and how they look when sorted by “top”, the topic is always some sort of politics, and the default-sort consensus is always “let’s all not vote for Democrats.” Usually, the comments are just the comments.
The passing of the ACA is something I see as a massive failure. How can we not? There was a chance to push for a real solution, universal healthcare, to get the private companies out of healthcare, and the DNC didn’t even try to make it happen.
Obama caving on universal healthcare was a warning sign of the kind of weak sauce that we’re seeing from many Washington Democrats this year, people who simply don’t believe in supporting the average American. If you didn’t see that at the time, I don’t blame you. Many people were fooled. By now, though, it should be apparent to all.
You want to argue that the ACA itself is good, but that’s a meaningless statement. Good compared to what? Meh. Putting a bandaid on a failing system that is now failing worse than it was a decade ago is better than nothing, sure, but it’s not particularly admirable.
I’m not the previous commenter, but in answer to your question, would I rather the ACA not exist? Of course I would! Anyone with half a brain who cares abut human beings around them would. Give us universal healthcare already. To hell with the ACA. Don’t give us broken systems that private companies will game to get rich while depriving our loved ones of live-saving care. We’ve had enough of that already… But many Americans are blindly patriotic, honestly believe that America is the greatest country in the world in every way, and can’t realize how much better life is in other places that actually have half-decent healthcare. So we’ll see if things ever take a change for the better.
Er… if we’re deciding to move the goalposts to “the ACA was a pitiful gift to the insurance companies and betrayal of what should have been, and the Democrats mostly haven’t done shit since then, we need real change” then I’ll completely agree with you.
If that’s what you’re saying, of course, then you need to have a chat with the people down below in the comments who said that right after the ACA passed, it started killing people, and we’d be better off without it.
If instead your argument is:
There was a chance to push for a real solution, universal healthcare
I’m not the previous commenter, but in answer to your question, would I rather the ACA not exist? Of course I would! Anyone with half a brain who cares abut human beings around them would. Give us universal healthcare already.
Are you under the impression that if the ACA didn’t exist, we would have universal health care?
That the systemic problems that fucked up genuine health care reform into the final mutated form of the ACA would suddenly not exist if only we attacked the ACA enough?
Incorrect, see below for many examples and arguments
Absolutely correct
You’d rather it didn’t exist?
The IRA reduced climate change emissions by about 40% from the peak.
Income inequality has actually been going down for the last few years, is that not a good thing?
Marijuana is legal now.
It’s not really “legislative,” so maybe this is sort of backing up what you were arguing in fact, but policing changed radically between 2014 and 2021, to the point that a lot of the abuses that were commonplace in 2014 actually are now these crazy outliers, and are usually punished with criminal charges for the cops.
I’ve talked before about how I feel like there are people who like to “paint the tape” of a comments section by leaving a handful of super-forceful comments in one particular direction, to paint the narrative they like to paint, if the comments section starts to develop in a way that they don’t like. Try sorting by “top” and compare it to the current comments section, if you want to get a better picture of what the consensus is.
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I notice that whenever there’s a huge discrepancy between how the comments look in the default sort, and how they look when sorted by “top”, the topic is always some sort of politics, and the default-sort consensus is always “let’s all not vote for Democrats.” Usually, the comments are just the comments.
The passing of the ACA is something I see as a massive failure. How can we not? There was a chance to push for a real solution, universal healthcare, to get the private companies out of healthcare, and the DNC didn’t even try to make it happen.
Obama caving on universal healthcare was a warning sign of the kind of weak sauce that we’re seeing from many Washington Democrats this year, people who simply don’t believe in supporting the average American. If you didn’t see that at the time, I don’t blame you. Many people were fooled. By now, though, it should be apparent to all.
You want to argue that the ACA itself is good, but that’s a meaningless statement. Good compared to what? Meh. Putting a bandaid on a failing system that is now failing worse than it was a decade ago is better than nothing, sure, but it’s not particularly admirable.
I’m not the previous commenter, but in answer to your question, would I rather the ACA not exist? Of course I would! Anyone with half a brain who cares abut human beings around them would. Give us universal healthcare already. To hell with the ACA. Don’t give us broken systems that private companies will game to get rich while depriving our loved ones of live-saving care. We’ve had enough of that already… But many Americans are blindly patriotic, honestly believe that America is the greatest country in the world in every way, and can’t realize how much better life is in other places that actually have half-decent healthcare. So we’ll see if things ever take a change for the better.
Er… if we’re deciding to move the goalposts to “the ACA was a pitiful gift to the insurance companies and betrayal of what should have been, and the Democrats mostly haven’t done shit since then, we need real change” then I’ll completely agree with you.
If that’s what you’re saying, of course, then you need to have a chat with the people down below in the comments who said that right after the ACA passed, it started killing people, and we’d be better off without it.
If instead your argument is:
Are you under the impression that if the ACA didn’t exist, we would have universal health care?
That the systemic problems that fucked up genuine health care reform into the final mutated form of the ACA would suddenly not exist if only we attacked the ACA enough?