Toulouse (France) (AFP) – A dozen Teslas were torched in France in what authorities are treating as an arson attack, the prosecutor’s office said Monday.
France is literally protesting better than the USA over our own issues…
Ooooh, lithium fires
I’ve heard the best thing people can do against Musk is to vandalise privately purchased Teslas. I’ve heard that will put mass fear in the market not to buy them.
I’ve heard that vandalising commercially owned Teslas will only result in insurance payouts and more Teslas being made.
I’ve heard that the best way to vandalise privately owned Teslas is to use spray paint, which is relatively easy to clean off (not hurting the owner too much) while being very media-affective.
That’s what I’ve heard.
The insurance premiums of the commercial ones will increase by a lot of this happens too much.
Or consider that people may have bought them well before Musk came out of the gate as a full scumbag. I know people who bought them when evs were still a new thing and they were just being green and cutting edge.
That’s entirely orthogonal to the point of their comment
I’ve heard the best thing people can do against Musk is to vandalise privately purchased Teslas.
Or removing its windshield wiper (its the giant stick on one side of the windshield)
Smh you should tell that to the fools in the thread about the lady in Colorado. They seem quite oblivious to this
Why would I tell anyone? I’m not condoning any action of vandalism at all. It’s only what I’ve heard.
Now that you’ve heard it too, you can tell others what you’ve heard without condoning it either.
I don’t support contributions to environmental damage caused by fires. I love the idea that Tesla cars are destroyed. It’s a conundrum.
That said, I like this more than I dislike it.
People can hold contradictory beliefs at the same time
Only 12? C’mon France we know you can do much better. Try again.
What have you done lately?
Made comments on the internet, obviously.
I’m doing my part!
Hey let’s be real.
Ain’t no protest like a French protest.
They’ll do better. Patience.
I’ll believe it when they chop teslas in half with a giant blade.
Nah, we put things on fire only when some random dealer get shot by a cop.
Setting EVs on fire is really bad for the environment. Can’t people just mess up these cars by cutting cables?
Based on repair costs just damaging one motor should be even to scrap it.
Which cables are readily accessible? Which cables are readily accessible but not easily replaceable?
And have them be easily repairable?
I imagine they don’t want to stick around too long
/me starts handing out “/s” shaped molotov cocktails
I think these bottles would be more appropriate. Odd how Musk’s tequila brand looks like an s from the SS logo. Im sure that’s unintentional.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-tequila-restocked/
Edit: For those unaware this is real and as someone with a multi-decade history of collecting and selling agave spirits at retail it is fucking awful for the money.
I’m surprised this hasn’t been happening in the US
They just catch fire sometimes, so it’s hard to tell.
I think there’s a better way to link Lemmy posts, but I don’t know how to fix it.
Once again the French demonstrate that they know how to raise hell.
We need to get more like the French.
Guess you haven’t seen https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39116529
There was a post here the other day asking if vandalism was OK because someone wrote something with their finger on a muddy swasticar.
Now this is vandalism. Or possibly an accident, batteries like to burn violently and Tesla isn’t known for build quality or safety…
C’mon, please don’t generate revenue for Tesla - not even from insurance policies. It makes more sense for the cars to just stand around and rust despite the stainless steel. Nobody wants to buy from that goddamn Nazi anyway.
But hey, maybe Musk had the cars set on fire himself - that would be a rather harmless insurance scam compared to his other activities…
Two people on my block have bought Teslas since the inauguration :( I’m in NYC
Tell them a random guy on the internet says they should be ashamed of themselves.
Spray them with salt water! Accelerate that rusting process!
If it continues, insurance companies will not insure Teslas. Already happened to certain Audi and Porsche models that had subpar plating underneath. Spontaneous combustion would easily do that to Teslas.
Also happened to Range Rovers once people realised they were insanely easy to steal.
It got so bad that people that owned them on finance could no longer get insurance. This made a tonne of them hit the second hand market making them cheaper. Meaning people with finance couldn’t even sell the car for the money they owed on the finance.
Range Rover started offering their own insurance and I did a quote for fun and they just said nah fam.
That’s funny 😅 The Germans failed the obvious “Don’t let a bump ruin your 15k battery pack” by making the cars longer and lower to look sportier than the competition. It worked until insurance companies realized they owe 15k€ for each person driving to a bump or pot hole at normal speeds.
And then those cars stopped selling 💁
Yes, that’s the silver lining.
Probably the batteries, yeah?
Yeah, lithium batteries are well known fire hazards.
And once they get going, they get going, google thermal runaway for some interesting videos.
To fight a thermal runaway you need to cool it down fast, ice is commonly recommanded.
I think all the ice is being used to kick out illegal immigrants though.
EV fires are fought by flooding (most commonly)
So would a snow machine work ?
No, but snow would probably be effective at cooling down a battery experiencing thermal runaway
Ohhh, ice for the required melting energy? I thought that would be offset by the more difficult handling and lower flow rates. Interesting.
No, no, you just deport the battery so it explodes in someone else’s country.
Good news to start the day :)
I wish it produced less pollution, but if it kills Tesla sales in Europe its probably a net benefit.
Yes, it’s good to see something fun in a middle of all these miserable days.
They did nazi that coming
I think - for their own safety, of course - we should gather more of these Tesla vehicles together in a central location so they can be isolated from the population at large… Perhaps in some sort of tent-based accommodation?
Not one of your best jokes.
Nazi jokes are funny.
I bet Jewish people just love a good nazi joke.
Jokes with the word nazi in them aren’t necessarily nazi jokes.
The only nazi joke right now is elon and he isn’t funny.
Nazis is super serious but you keep cracking jokes.
I’m sure everyone who was terrorized by nazi would find your jokes hilarious.
Would you joke about rape victims the same?
Bet they didn’t see all that cumming.
Again theres only one nazi joke, it’s elon. I didnt make any nazi jokes, I made a joke about a nazi that had the word nazi in it. Relax
How many Jews can you get in a VW Beetle? 2 in the front, 2 in the back, 150 in the ash tray.
Now these are actual nazi jokes.
I get what point you are trying to make but you have to realize that to basically everyone there is a big difference between these jokes and what RedditWanderer has said.
I did Nazi see this cumming.
Lol it’s just a nazi joke.
It’s harmless.
Next up mild transgender jokes.
What’s the difference between a Jew and a Pizza? Pizzas don’t scream when you put them in the oven
Why did Hitler kill himself? He got the gas bill.
If the finances there work the way I expect they do, if it was political activists upset about Elon Musk who burned the cars, that probably doesn’t have a lot of negative impact on Elon Musk.
My guess is that the dealership owned the cars, and that they’re probably insured on top of that. The insurer pays. So the net effect is going to be a tiny amount of upwards pressure in French auto insurance costs. The dealership will use insurance money to go buy replacement Teslas. Thus, Tesla will get several more sales, paid for by the French public.
This risk is unique to Teslas. So if an insurer applied the cost to all brands, they would create an adverse selection problem where Tesla owners buy the subsidized insurance at a greater rate, and other car owners would be driven to the competition.
This is why they ask so many questions when insuring your car, like if it’s a red Ferrari. Eeeeeverything goes into the algorithm.
That only holds true, if no more than a tiny amount of Teslas in dealerships start burning. However if many start burning, insurance will drop coverage, dealers will look to sell other cars, and Tesla will loose serious revenue.
Why did the dealership buy more Teslas with that money instead of a different brand?
Do dealers not deal with a single manufacturer in france?
Oh right, I forgot they mostly do that in the USA don’t they? Don’t know if France does, but Finland has multibrand dealerships
Well, for some dumb reason we followed the american model for dealerships in Canada.
I wasn’t there though… Do it again so I can see.
Spring season. Fires. Expectable.
