Found on reddit. I’m told the reason for their visit is to intimidate the Haitian immigrant community there.

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    Thank you for sharing. If anyone isn’t anti-fascist yet, reading that would help persuade them.

    I wonder how many marching nazis have you killed already. Or if you’re not arguing the people the photo should have been murdered already, have you been fighting them in other ways first? If it’s the later, then we agree. If it’s the former, that’s very brave of you to do that on everyone’s behalf. I hope it’s worth it. It’s a big sacrifice.

    My life would be far easier if someone killed all the current nazis and no more grew up to replace them. I’d love to not worry about them. Though I hope there’s peaceful way to end fascism, and that these people in the photo can be saved.

    • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.world
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      I wonder how many marching nazis have you killed already.

      None, Nazi’s aren’t stupid enough to march in the open in Canada*. If any come out in Vancouver, I’ll be sure to have a polite political discussion with them where I show them the impact a single fist can have.

      Though I hope there’s peaceful way to end fascism, and that these people in the photo can be saved.

      Ask Neville Chamberlain how diplomacy works with Nazis. Ask the Association of German National Jews how working with them went. You want to save people, cool so do I. So don’t shoot them. My grandfather didn’t, but he also didn’t ask that we really, really try to persuade them not to follow through on literally all of their goals. Which Nazi goal are we ok with? How far are we going to allow a group whose entire basis is the death and torture of everyone except themselves? How exactly are you going to deprogramme these people? Get them to sit down for a few months while you run cult deprogramming, which they will allow, because…?

      You’re walking right into the paradox of tolerance. You think there’s some way you can work with these people, but you need to understand, this entire ideology is sociopathic. You’re sitting here saying we need to sit down and try to persuade Hannibal Lector in how to act in polite society with maybe less eating people. Hitler was appointed Chancellor in 1933. We had years of warning of what was happening, and instead we tried to talk to them, hey please don’t invade more places, please stop this genocide thing.

      My grandmother watched kristallnacht from Holland. You could see the buildings burning from miles away, across borders.

      These people aren’t a different political ideology. They also don’t just target Jewish people, 2SLGBTQI+, Communists, Socialists, Romani (the few who are left), slavic people.

      Prostitutes, Romani, homosexuals, and women who refused to marry were lumped together, with black triangles.

      That tradwife shit? They’re going to decide who women have to marry, who are going to be breeding stock, who will RUN the death camps, and who are going to GO TO fucking death camps. There’s no other fucking option, that’s it.

      If you don’t want to fight, don’t. If you want to try to bargain with them, whatever. Just know you won’t be first, but you won’t be last. While you argue with them they’ll take over ICE, or the FBI or whatever, and it won’t just be immigrants they put in cages while you watch. It’ll be your mother, sister, aunt, daughter.

      If you’re an American, go to these rallies, at least be part of the human wall between the vulnerable in your group and them. Talk, give Ben Shapiro, the new head of the Association of German National Jews his platform while you debate against it. It will fail, and somewhere a 15 year old girl is going to be forced to do what you won’t.

      It’s 1933, Quisling, how much rope do you want to hang yourself?

      (*https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKTSlV2WQAIiuxV?format=png&name=small If I had been there, yes I would have thrown myself in fist-first. I’d rather be the first to die fighting them than live to see them win.)