On the one hand, I am a bleeding heart liberal who figures that they have definitively made it clear they can do the job so let them do it.
On the other hand, firefighters (less so the wildfire fighting variety) are often in incredibly tense people centric situations. If we had a penal system that at all cared about rehabilitation I would be all for it. As it stands… background checks exist for a reason. And I still think there needs to be much more thought rather than just “You have a record, get out”.
Regardless: Fucking pay them for the job while they do it.
This I never fully understood. Isn’t the point of prison/community service orders etc. for the person to be punished for the crime or repay their debt to society? In which case, after the punishment has been carried out why continue to punish them further? They’ve done their time and hopefully learned a lesson. I understand background checks as a form of checking a person’s character for certain sensitive roles, but for everything?? Nah, that makes no sense.
I think that’s what he’s saying, the system is based on punishment and not rehabilitation so usually repeat offences and/or escalation/different crime types is quite common thus leading to the system where people who have a record at all can’t do much.
If we did have a prison system reform based around rehabilitation, then it would be much easier to ban people’s records from being used against them in the future
I am of two minds on the subject.
On the one hand, I am a bleeding heart liberal who figures that they have definitively made it clear they can do the job so let them do it.
On the other hand, firefighters (less so the wildfire fighting variety) are often in incredibly tense people centric situations. If we had a penal system that at all cared about rehabilitation I would be all for it. As it stands… background checks exist for a reason. And I still think there needs to be much more thought rather than just “You have a record, get out”.
Regardless: Fucking pay them for the job while they do it.
This I never fully understood. Isn’t the point of prison/community service orders etc. for the person to be punished for the crime or repay their debt to society? In which case, after the punishment has been carried out why continue to punish them further? They’ve done their time and hopefully learned a lesson. I understand background checks as a form of checking a person’s character for certain sensitive roles, but for everything?? Nah, that makes no sense.
American (and many other countries) penal system is about suffering, not rehabilitation.
I think that’s what he’s saying, the system is based on punishment and not rehabilitation so usually repeat offences and/or escalation/different crime types is quite common thus leading to the system where people who have a record at all can’t do much.
If we did have a prison system reform based around rehabilitation, then it would be much easier to ban people’s records from being used against them in the future