• MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    “Aggress on them” by existing on their border? This is apologist and appeasement nonsense. Russia’s rights end at their borders.

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      4 months ago

      Except that the cuban missle crises shows the US completely disagrees (unless it is convenient at that moment). Do you not see how this war was 100% avoidable if nato did not cross the directly drawn line?

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        4 months ago

        Comparing them to our imperialist actions isn’t the brilliant argument that you think it is.

        At any rate, NATO has never offered membership to Ukraine — they’ve been explicitly told their corruption issues were a non-starter.

        And, of course, Ukraine only started those talks following Russia invading Crimea in 2014. Again, Russia is the clear aggressor here. Get real.

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          4 months ago

          You are correct that they didnt offer it yet, but it was on the table, and NATO knew that was the reddest of red lines. You also do even know why russia took over Crimea in the first place.

          And yes, how america would react is imporant because it shows how we really feel, not just propaganda about how they can do what they please.