Data from a new Gallup survey suggests that close to half of Democrats want their party to move more toward the middle, while more than 40% of Republicans are happy with their party.

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      …only on Lemmy lol.

      In the real world America the left has gone so far left they have lost their own moderates and now they call those people righty centrists.

      Every time I try to tell y’all that the average American finds your stances way too left you guys double down and insist that you actually need to go more left.

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        If you look at the issues people support, like universal health care, a living wage, meals for kids, yes, the average American does support moving left.

        The problem is the media pushing the lies that a corporate centrist Democratic party is already too far left when that isn’t the case.

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          See that’s interesting because I feel the mainstream media has long been pushing the far left agenda for a long time now.

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            That likely means that you’ve been consuming further right media that paints anything left of hunting homeless people for sport as “far left.”

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              That’s uh… An interesting example to give lol.

              No I am very careful about my news consumption. Around friends and family its all very left leaning news. I am constantly inundated with left leaning news actually. My mom constantly sends me left leaning articles and video clips that I have to show her are just blatant incorrectly at times.

              Anytime I read an article or watch a video I am careful to note the biases of the presenter and take that into account as they talk about things. When reading news articles from sources I don’t recognize I make a lazy attempt at figuring out who pays their bills and might have sway over what they are saying.

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                You use terms only right wing news sites use, such as “far left.” The “far left” in the US is limited to smaller, unrepresented people, for example: anarchist groups in places like Portland and Seattle. The mainstream media is corporate and capitalist. It can’t push “far left” perspectives because it has none. It pushes at best centrist ideas like “women should have some amount of say in their health care,” but they’re even milquetoast about that. “Far left” is black bloc protesters milkshaking Andy Ngo. Let me know when the mainstream media endorses that.

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                  Yeah and nobody on the right refers to themselves as “the far right” either. What’s your point exactly?

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                    My point is that what you’re calling far left isn’t far or even left. You’re applying an Overton window dominated by right wing perspectives. It’s not left when NBC interviews someone from Planned Parenthood or talks about equitable housing initiatives. It’s definitely not left when mainstream news organizations use soft language to describe corruption and crimes committed by Republicans. Right wingers love to use CNN as an example of “far left” media, when it’s far closer to Newsmax than to the Daily Worker. Corporate media can’t be leftist by its very nature.

                    And I have spoken to plenty of people on the right that call themselves far right. They just prefer their dog whistles and euphemisms in official publications such as “Patriot” or “Real American.”

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        That’s actually not completely true. If you present the Bernie Sanders stuff to about 80% of American voters, without identifying the source, they go wild with approval, and they tell you that’s the whole thing they’ve been saying this whole time.

        There’s a little bit of an issue that the average American is roughly on par with Nixon politics-compass-wise, but mostly the issue is that they’ve been so addled by poisonous corporate media that they don’t know up from down, and they think the Republicans are the party of small government and honor, and the Democrats are the party of transgender-queer-ism and corporate corruption.

        So you’re right in terms of what political parties they support, but not in terms of what political stances they support. The one has just been divorced from the other by careful engineering. And then also, yes, some Nixon things like “immigrants are all dangerous rapists and the left is letting them do it” and other such things, they have absorbed.