• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    This is basic felony murder shit. Any attorney worth their salt should have been telling him to take the plea deal, because felony murder is a Big Fucking Deal. To be more exact, 46 of 50 states have some version of a felony murder statute, and in 24 of them–just under half–felony murder is a capital crime, and can potentially receive the death penalty.

    A good attorney would be communicating this clearly to their client, and make sure that the client understood that going to trial would likely mean decades in prison, and possibly a death penalty; the odds of beating the charge, if you participated in the underlying crime, are very, very poor.

    Here’s the basic deal: when a deal occurs during the course of committing certain felonies, any major participant in the commission of that crime are guilty of causing that death. If you’re the getaway driver in a bank robbery, and all of the robbers get killed by security guards, you get charged with murder for their deaths, even though it was legal for the security guards to use lethal force against them. Smith was one of the participants in the burglary, and it was during the commission of the burglary that Washington attacked a police officer and was killed. Because Smith was an active participant in that burglary, he’s guilty of that death, even though Washington was justifiably killed by a cop.

    And, BTW, this isn’t bootlicking bullshit. It didn’t need to be a cop that killed Washington for a felony murder charge to apply to Smith. If Washington had attacked the homeowner, and the homeowner had killled Washington, it would have been the same felony murder charge for Smith.

    • azuth@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      Garbage in garbage out.

      If you accept US disgusting legal system as fair or ‘normal’ you can justify this outcome. Its obviously not.

      Charging a person with felony murder when no murder was commited is not justice no more than Saudi Arabia executing people for being gay.

      I 'll also give you some personal advice, no non-bootlicker preemptively disclaims being a bootlicker.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Exactly. I’m not even particularly opposed if you take part in a violent felony that resulted in death so long as it’s a victims death. Participants dying by accident or by external deadly force especially police use of force getting charged is fucking dumb.

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          8 days ago

          Why? Just because it feels wrong?

          Their decision to break and enter directly lead to a persons death. Why do make a distinction between who’s life it is?

          If your actions lead to a persons death, you should be charged for it.

          The flip side of this is what? As long as you have others do the murdering you can’t be charged?

          Walk me through why its wrong?

          • Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org
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            8 days ago

            Robbing a bank and killing a person are two very different crimes. Intentionally killing someone is murder. Unintentionally causing a death is a different moral failing altogether, and should be treated differently.

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              8 days ago

              They as a group put a persons life in danger. That person protected themselves. What exactly is wrong with holding the group responsible for their actions? Should the cop be held accountable for defending themselves?

              If it was the homeowner instead does that change it for you? Follow actions to consequences.

              • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                8 days ago

                If the officer did not commit murder how then could could anyone be charged with felony murder for a murder that did not happen. Justified homicide is specifically not murder.

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                  8 days ago

                  If their actions could forseeably lead to violence and death, and that actually happens, yes they are responsible.