• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Exactly. I’m not even particularly opposed if you take part in a violent felony that resulted in death so long as it’s a victims death. Participants dying by accident or by external deadly force especially police use of force getting charged is fucking dumb.

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      8 days ago

      Why? Just because it feels wrong?

      Their decision to break and enter directly lead to a persons death. Why do make a distinction between who’s life it is?

      If your actions lead to a persons death, you should be charged for it.

      The flip side of this is what? As long as you have others do the murdering you can’t be charged?

      Walk me through why its wrong?

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        8 days ago

        Robbing a bank and killing a person are two very different crimes. Intentionally killing someone is murder. Unintentionally causing a death is a different moral failing altogether, and should be treated differently.

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          8 days ago

          They as a group put a persons life in danger. That person protected themselves. What exactly is wrong with holding the group responsible for their actions? Should the cop be held accountable for defending themselves?

          If it was the homeowner instead does that change it for you? Follow actions to consequences.

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            8 days ago

            If the officer did not commit murder how then could could anyone be charged with felony murder for a murder that did not happen. Justified homicide is specifically not murder.

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              8 days ago

              If their actions could forseeably lead to violence and death, and that actually happens, yes they are responsible.

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                8 days ago

                He could not foresee that his accomplice was either armed or an attempted murderer. There’s no claim he resisted as far as I can tell just that he and two others took part in what they thought was solely going to be going into buildings not shooting at cops.

                I don’t think anyone is responsible for summer else’s actions, you can do you time for your actions serving time for someone else’s is fucking weird.

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                  Yes he could and he likely did. Them having a gun is partly why they are able to go around robbing people. The whole group likely knew it, it had been used prior as well, and the expectation in a group like that is that if things go wrong the person with the gun will handle it.

                  Everyone else did the only thing they possibly could do when a gun fight broke out and they had no guns, run and hide. They should not get credit for doing the only possible thing at the time. Its likely if he had the gun it would have been expected he use it to defend the group as well.

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                    7 days ago

                    There’s no evidence to suggest that, what you feel is irrelevant.

                    They should absolutely get credit for not being the ones armed. You’re being obtuse and kinda bigoted.