Replacing a dishwasher. Most of the mid-range options now come with fucking Wi-Fi. Found a model I liked, no info in manual and support from Samsung was of course, useless since it wasn’t already in the manual and wanted to keep talking about their exciting “smart things” app. gag.

I saw a youtube video of a guy disconnecting wifi cable on a fridge. I’m fine doing that if I have to open up the board but it’ll probably be smaller than the fridge and who knows if it’ll be helpfully labled like the one in the video was. Internet searching showed me there may be oven keypress combinations to turn wi-fi radio on/off. Anyone have anything similar/advice for Samsung appliances, specifically dishwashers?

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        Honestly asking; Why would I care if my dishwasher connected to some random Wi-Fi. What does it know about me? Someone gonna hack it?

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          There have been instances of network-enabled devices updating to put existing features behind a paywall, unilaterally changing the terms of service (can’t use device anymore until you agree to new terms), and simply removing features that you paid for when you bought the device.

          Why does a dishwasher need wifi?

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            How is that legal? Could u buy a dishwasher then 3 months later it starts asking for a small fee per wash?

            I know these things happen but usually you are informed in advance and bought the product at a big discount

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              It probably requires an app to monitor the wash cycle. All they have to do is start charging a subscription to use the app. If people bought the dishwasher because they would get alerts when their dishes were clean, now they have to pay a recurring fee.

              Roku pushed an update to their TVs requiring owners to agree to a new terms of service. There was no “disagree” button, and the TV wouldn’t work until people accepted the changes.

              This is such a new problem that it’s never been challenged in court.

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            Then require one. You’re acting like this is an unavoidable thing. You just simply don’t connect the appliance to the Internet.

            It’s not difficult.

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              Ok dude.

              Have you ever set up one of these devices? It’s not a case of ‘find my wifi, enter in passkey, connected’ they literally broadcast an unsecured ad hoc network that you connect to and configure from.

              If you never connect it it will sit there blaring an unsecured wifi with access to its core configuration forever

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                2 months ago

                At least in some places, having open wi-fi without KYC is illegal, so the neighbors aren’t going to do this - passwordless is not the default.