Hey, folks. I fucked up and jumped the gun by unilaterally changing the rules to exclude commercial sources without consulting the admins.

We are all in agreement that the state of commercial journalism is either disrepair or complete failure, but we’re working on how to best address that. Though I deleted that post, I’ve kept the copy and am using the suggestions in conjunction with the thoughts of others, both users and admins/mods.

This new rule remains in the sidebar while we work together as a community (this includes you) to determine how that looks in practice. We hope to be very shortly sharing a list of preferred, trustworthy sites, and it’s looking like neither a whitelist nor blacklist is really feasible.

So I’m going to ask everyone to be vigilant. Call out fascist bullshit when you see it by submitting a report. I do want everyone feeling like they can contribute to the community, with an eye to making sure we don’t become part of the problem.

Watch this space for further developments. Your input is definitely welcome.

  • Vodulas [they/them]@beehaw.org
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    Appreciate the mea culpa.

    It might take too much hands on, but a tagging system could work.

    Something like

    [Independent Media] Article Title

    [Corporate Media] Article Title

    That also requires the poster to understand the source, which may or may not be the case

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      That also requires the poster to understand the source, which may or may not be the case

      That’s the general problem. Users seem to have a firm grasp of what’s acceptable in this community (seriously, in 20 months, I’ve had to remove two posts that I can recall), but expecting them to vet sources is not a reasonable ask for people not already neck-deep in journalism.

      I’m just trying to get out ahead of how fast things are deteriorating since the inauguration; I was expecting this, but in the first 100 days, not 10. And if you can’t admit when you make a mistake, how can anyone trust you to lead a community? Both sentences being in the same graf is not an accident.

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        Yeah, it’s rather exhausting to hunt down information about some of these things. Like, I can usually find info on who owns a news site, but sometimes I don’t have the context to know if they’ve been doing shady shit. Keeping track of things is (purposefully) difficult. Like, I found this resource but it is out of date. I am using ublocklist to slowly add to a list of news sites to make it so that I check them as I see them. If anything comes of that, I’ll post here or something?

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        Oh I get it 100%. It is so hard to keep going and push through the BS. But remember, the exhaustion is the point of their tactic. They want to exhaust people and resources so when the dust settles we are out of will and ability to fight. Pick your battles, bide your time, and don’t burn too hot. I know, easier said than done

        • Pete Hahnloser@beehaw.orgOPM
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          They’re quite effectively flooding the zone with shit at scale. The one upside to my situation is that I will never have to type out … oh, shit, this sort of defeats the point of the joke … Secretary of State Marco Rubio. I mean I’ll never have to do it again. The state many are in is already enough to overwhelm our mental-health system (such as it is) in very short order.