Yesterday I was reading the post about the FUTO keyboard where there were a lot of messages deleted by moderators.
I’ve commented there

What the heck happened with all the messages deleted by moderator?

And it got deleted. Right now you can only see 4, but I’ve counted 19 messages moderated and the post has been locked. Why?
I’ve had a look ad the modlog and the messages don’t seems to violate any policy (now they’ve removed them in the modlog too).

I’m pinging here lemmy.ml admin and the mods of the open source community where the post was posted so they can have their say about it and clarify the situation to me.
@kevincox@lemmy.ml @CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml @Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml @Cloak@lemmy.ml @davel@lemmy.ml @dessalines@lemmy.ml @nutomic@lemmy.ml @JoeBidet@lemmy.ml @cypherpunks@lemmy.ml

If I’m getting something wrong, please let me know, I’m here to discus and understand if I’m getting something wrong or if something went wrong in the moderation. Thanks!

Down here you can see the deleted comments.

P.s. I’m writing here because I think that this post on lemmy.ml wouldn’t last long.

  • cm0002@lemmy.world
    189·
    14 hours ago

    .ml has long been known to remove dissenting voices of any kind (Ironic because they always accuse .world and other instances like .ee of becoming echo chambers), especially voices that rightfully criticize their favored authoritarian governments such as China or Russia. Usually though those are removed under their catchall “RULE1 bigotry”

    It’s a little weird to remove software related comments for being off topic when they’re clearly not, but this is a by-product of that moderation culture the Tankie Admins and Mods (Yes the main dev Nutomic (and transphobe, see stickied post in !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) and major mods like dess are full bore tankies) pushed.

    Oh, and don’t bother tagging any .ml users, .ml hates their rank-and-file members from seeing the dissent against .ml so has blocked !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and I believe this comm as well on their instance. They’ll also site-ban individuals that dare talk against them, even when that talk is exclusively on other instances.

    PS, generally the people who say “They never have any issues” are Tankies themselves or at least align with that mindset enough that they can go for a while without a negative interaction.

    • PhilipTheBucketA
      143·
      14 hours ago

      (Ironic because they always accuse .world and other instances like .ee of becoming echo chambers)

      I had someone from lemmy.ml tell me “I’m happy that you libs have your own instances!”, and apparently mean it sincerely. In their mind, maybe, the 4,530 active users on lemmy.ml+lemmygrad+Hexbear are “Lemmy,” and the 39,721 other users are on “their own instances.”

      Not that being in the majority means you’re right. But if you’re in the minority, and you don’t know it, that’s often a warning sign.

    • peregus@lemmy.worldOP
      5·
      14 hours ago

      I didn’t know, I’m mainly active on lemmy.world. How can that instance have so much traction?

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        142·
        14 hours ago

        I believe it was the original instance, it’s maintained by the devs, and the description on join-Lemmy.org is extremely misleading and does not make its extremist politics clear at all.

        So it had a lot of momentum early on, and the largest coms for many topics were hosted there. However, they definitely seem to be declining in influence over time as many users have opted to avoid the instance altogether and seek alternative communities elsewhere. That’s what I would recommend doing.

      • cm0002@lemmy.world
        126·
        14 hours ago

        First movers advantage, .ml is the first and “flagship” instance, the rest of the Tankie Triad (Hexbear and grad) followed closely after, though .world has defed from those because they were not as subtle on their “viewpoints” as .ml tries to be to avoid getting defed’d from, so you probably haven’t even heard of those.

        .ml also used to be the default instance on the join-lemmy website which is also run by Nutomic, but recently they changed the recommendation algo so that it would no longer recommend instances with >30% of the user base Lemmy-wide to include .ml and .world.

        The hope is that someday .world will finish what it started and defed from the last remaining on the Tankie Triad, but until then the best recommendation is just not interact with it at all. No posts or comments or upvotes. If you want to take a more active roll, if you do see an actual good post on a .ml comm, crosspost it to the nearest non-.ml comm

        • peregus@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          14 hours ago

          The hope is that someday .world will finish what it started and defed from the last remaining on the Tankie Triad,

          Well, maybe another instance. The more populated instance, the better. Federation is here to avoid centralization, no?

          • cm0002@lemmy.world
            25·
            12 hours ago

            Yea, but many of the other instances already do, in fact now that I think about it I think DB0 (this instance) defed’s from the complete Tankie Triad nvm they don’t

            .world defed’ing them as the goal is that way because .world is like double the size of the next largest instance, so it will help the rest of the Lemmy-verse look more like the tankies are “Just a fringe group running their own servers” rather than being the Lemmy-verse (of that make sense)

            As far as making .world too centralized in general, I do also advise if you’re going to be posting more, the best thing for the overall health of Lemmy is to try to pick non-.world comms to post to even if they’re a little slower in traffic. So like !science@mander.xyz instead of !science@lemmy.world