• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    You are getting downvoted, but I have seen a bit of this myself and I understand why people would really start to resent this kind of thing. I grew up dirt poor, but I get a lot of messaging about how I should “check my privilege” from people much further up the economic ladder than I am now and certainly where I came from. I used to shrug off this ignorance based on racism, but it’s become more prevalent and definitely more strident. I’m to shut up entirely and listen to others merely and only because of demographics? No, I’m not having it. That’s about as bigoted as it gets.

    I don’t think the answer is to vote for a terrorist like donnie or demons like any Republican politician. I really don’t know what the answer is. I just don’t think that some of the people pushing extremely racist things while supposedly under the banner of equity even have any clue just how many Republicans they are probably creating. When you go around preaching at people, and telling them they are the source of so many problems and they need to just listen at all times to a certain set of self-selected demographics, or else be accused of all kinds of things, people really don’t take it all that well.

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      Shocking the same policies fucking over various minorities also make life shitty for poor white people. The republicans being created are the ones that bought into the whole as long as we have an underclass for the poor whites to look down on they’ll never look up at who is actually fucking them over because they’ll at least be better off than those other ultra poors.

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        4 months ago

        Yes, like I said, a lot of it almost seems to be crafted to generate lots of resentment and division vs. pointing out the progress that has been made and working toward making things better. I mean, anyone that points out how far things have come is made out to be some kind of reactionary by some of this group.

        I’m all for people learning real history, and learning to get along in this melting pot, and for everyone to have a seat at the table. But some extremist members seem to want to have a platform to lecture a certain other set of people, telling them how they should do this, and feel that (mostly feel bad for being who they were born as). Well, I’m not sure how that’s ever worked to win people over. I think this extremist fringe is definitely not helping the progressive cause. Some of them may be deluded to think that they can make everyone come over or be made to kowtow to their view. I don’t believe this to be the case, and I think more than a few of them are not even actually on the progressive side at all, but just merely troublemakers with a vendetta and a chip on their shoulder, or worse, con plants put there to make the entire left look ridiculous and hateful.

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        4 months ago

        I’m not sure there is systemic racism against whites (as of yet). Or at least I’ve not seen any evidence for this. I do think there are certain activists that actually would be just fine if there were, though. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

        What everyone should be talking about is equal opportunities. Try to see things through another’s eyes. Understand the human experience has much more in common than we are different, etc…but instead, the new mantra from extremists seems to be that a certain set of demographics is elevated and another set needs to only listen because they could not possibly understand or empathize, so they should just sit down and shut up because humans are just sooo different from one another.

        Often subtracting any aspect of class in this conversation - so we have absolutely absurdist outcomes like: Will Smith, who has an amount of privilege that few in this country could possibly match, walks up and slaps Chris Rock (who is probably close to Will Smith in privilege level), out in public. And we had some of this fringe claiming that white people could not discuss this event, and really should not offer our opinion; it was a Black thing. WTAF?