• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      The moment he takes away protections for race is the moment I stop hiring white people.

      In my industry, black people typically have lower salary expectations and have worked harder to get where they are.

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        8 days ago

        I get what you’re saying but you’re also saying that it’s cool to be racist against white people just because some white people are insufferable antisocial mentally deficient assholes.

        I would never say this about any race because I’m not racist, all people are the same. What does that make you?

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          I had a similar argument the other day somewhere else. People seem to think you can’t be racist against white people, and argue that it’s not racism when they discriminate specifically upon the color of white people’s skin. Lemmy/Reddit/Social Media goes bonkers when you tell them that you can be racist against anybody regardless of skin color, as is the literal definition of racism. And they wonder why nobody takes them seriously on the opposing side of the political spectrum, when people in their own clique think they’re dumb as hell.

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            Yet I get down voted.

            Doesn’t matter, I treat everyone the same, I don’t give a shit about your skin color, your gender, your sexual preferences (and please, I don’t need to know your sexual preferences when you introduce yourself to me), or anything like that. I’ll treat you with respect.

            Would be nice that lemmings and the rest start applying rules equally. Racism is racism, not “racism is racism unless it’s against a white person”

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          I’m not who you responded to, but I’m butting in here. I do not believe the person you responded to has shown any evidence of racism.

          What does their comment plus yours make them? I’d say a small force opposing the inevitable consequence to this revocation of employment rights. The inevitable consequence being for agencies to engage fewer visibly non-white contractors.

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            He quite literally said “I’ll stop hiring white people”

            Let’s try this: " I’ll stop hiring black people". That’s pretty racist, right? I fully believe that, and I’d never say or do that.

            So if that is racist, it is also racist if it’s against white, yellow, brown or green for all I care. Racism is racism, please stop with the “racism is okay against whites because they have power” bullshit.

            If you want to kick against those in power, go right ahead. If that means you’ll mostly mock against white people because most people in power are white people, fine! If you start kicking against ALL white people because of that, you’re the exact same type of racist as the ones liking to dress up as a ghost.

            Seriously, why do I even have to explain racism? I grew up being taught that were all the same, no matter color, wee-wee or pee-pee, who you decide to love, or even if you want to believe in imaginary sky people. Granted, that last one is hard for me because religions cause so much shit and it’s all about who’s imaginary sky person is real or not. But beyond religion, I treat everyone equal, I respect all.

            Why is it so goddamn much to ask that rules are applied equally to all?

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            7 days ago

            One person suggests not hiring people based on the color of their skin. Another person argues that this person does not show any signs of racism. What’s even going on anymore?

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          Not all people have the same opportunity. To say all people are the same is to deny systemic reality. Lemme know when everyone has similar wealth or power to Trump, Musk, Zuckerberg, etc.

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            Uh huh, and that is your excuse for being okay with racism?

            Because that is what that was, LITERALLY. It’s the classic “it’s only bad if they do it, it’s perfectly fine when we do it” scheme and it’s tiring

            If you want to be against racism, then be against racism. If you want to be able to be racism against white people, because “insert reasons they sound good in your head” then that’s fine, but at least admit you’re just a racist too.

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      8 days ago

      This deals with equal opportunity for federal contractors. It’s not directly tied to labor in the private sector.

      But also, yes. I feel like maybe it’s better in the long run if the federal government isn’t looking out for people, and they get accustomed to organizing themselves enough to demand better treatment from their employers without anyone needing to hand it to them.

      Maybe.

      IDK, maybe I am just trying to rationalize what is guaranteed to happen regardless.