To be clear, you don’t believe that Trump, the guy famous for being easy to manipulate by stroking his ego, would be influenced by grandiose titles like “peacemaker”?
I think he would be extremely flattered by the title of peacemaker, just as he would be flattered by the idea that he is the least racist person you’ll ever meet, a great husband, skilled at business, or kind and generous. I think the idea of actually taking steps to be any of those things is abhorrent to him. In particular, the idea of doing unpopular (anti-Israel) things to save the lives of a bunch of Arab terrorists, I think is so laughably incompatible with Trump that it’s very weird that people here and at The Guardian are saying it with a straight face.
People are also saying with a straight face that all anybody had to do was call up Israel and tell them firmly to stop, and that would fix it. I think they’re only saying that so they can imply that Biden is bad because he refused to do that. It’s an absurd thing to say.
So no, you’re saying he can’t be influenced through this kind of flattery. I think you’re giving him too much credit. This guy flip-flopped on a Tik Tok ban just because he started getting followers. He’ll flip on anything if he thinks it will make him popular.
Speaking of popularity, pro-Palestinian viewpoints are extremely popular amongst US youth. I don’t agree with you that this is the unpopular viewpoint. Many news outlets are even claiming a Tik Tok ban is being used to silence majority pro-Palestinian opinions. Like others here, I think it’s crazy to believe he won’t be influenced through this kind of coverage. Furthermore, it would be a shame if Trump’s fragile ego wasn’t taken advantage of in this instance to help bring an end to the genocide. Unfortunately, it seems like some people would rather have the killing continue than manipulate Trump through the mere suggestion that he can bring peace.
Furthermore, it would be a shame if Trump’s fragile ego wasn’t taken advantage of in this instance to help bring an end to the genocide. Unfortunately, it seems like some people would rather have the killing continue than manipulate Trump through the mere suggestion that he can bring peace.
What kind of homeopathic Jedi mind trick is this? I don’t want the killing to continue. That’s why I didn’t want Trump, and why I am attempting to talk sense into people who for some asinine reason are celebrating what a good job he’s going to do of stopping it. I cannot believe that on a supposedly technie / leftist social media platform I am having to explain to people that Trump isn’t a caring or capable individual when they are swearing he’s accomplished a great success for human rights before even coming into office. I cannot fathom what would make any intelligent person, at this point and watching his track record so far, think that.
How popular do you think pro-Palestinian viewpoints are among the news Trump watches, or any of the people he talks to? The people influencing him, I think, mostly think all the Palestinians should die and the faster the better. That’s not going to change because of a story in The Guardian, or The Wall Street Journal, or on Fox News. For one thing, even if he somehow were spurred to action, it would require actual toughness and cleverness in dealing with Netanyahu, which Trump doesn’t have.
It’s absolutely true that Trump can be manipulated to do various things almost without limit, by people flattering him. The degree to which he cares about what pro-Palestinian youth in the United States think has nothing to do with whether they think he’s doing a good job being a peacemaker. It is limited to whether they are going to make a problem which warrants him deploying the National Guard against them with live ammunition.
It’s not a Jedi mind trick to suggest that if Trump can be easily manipulated, those who care should try to influence him towards good. It doesn’t matter if “being good” is Trump’s desire or not. I absolutely agree with Maggoty that Trump would love being credited as a peacemaker, and I think his ego can drive him to want to fulfill that role.
That’s why I didn’t want Trump, and why I am attempting to talk sense into people…
That’s neat, but professing how much you didn’t and still don’t want him isn’t going to do anyone any good at this point. Trump is going to be sworn in next week regardless. Articles like this one from The Guardian are significantly more helpful at influencing a better path forward than constant doomerism. I would absolutely love it if Trump can find any success in the peacemaking process.
I thought about posting “We need to see more fake good stories about Trump in the press. He’ll see them, and start doing good things, and if you don’t agree, you would rather have him do bad thing and you’re bad” to meanwhileongrad or a new post on this community, but I decided it’s not really worth the bandwidth. The two of you are out of your minds.
I’m not sure how your theoretical post serves any purpose beside setting up a strawman. This hasn’t been about inventing fake stories, but instead, about dangling a very real carrot in front of the new US president.
To be clear, you don’t believe that Trump, the guy famous for being easy to manipulate by stroking his ego, would be influenced by grandiose titles like “peacemaker”?
I think he would be extremely flattered by the title of peacemaker, just as he would be flattered by the idea that he is the least racist person you’ll ever meet, a great husband, skilled at business, or kind and generous. I think the idea of actually taking steps to be any of those things is abhorrent to him. In particular, the idea of doing unpopular (anti-Israel) things to save the lives of a bunch of Arab terrorists, I think is so laughably incompatible with Trump that it’s very weird that people here and at The Guardian are saying it with a straight face.
People are also saying with a straight face that all anybody had to do was call up Israel and tell them firmly to stop, and that would fix it. I think they’re only saying that so they can imply that Biden is bad because he refused to do that. It’s an absurd thing to say.
So no, you’re saying he can’t be influenced through this kind of flattery. I think you’re giving him too much credit. This guy flip-flopped on a Tik Tok ban just because he started getting followers. He’ll flip on anything if he thinks it will make him popular.
Speaking of popularity, pro-Palestinian viewpoints are extremely popular amongst US youth. I don’t agree with you that this is the unpopular viewpoint. Many news outlets are even claiming a Tik Tok ban is being used to silence majority pro-Palestinian opinions. Like others here, I think it’s crazy to believe he won’t be influenced through this kind of coverage. Furthermore, it would be a shame if Trump’s fragile ego wasn’t taken advantage of in this instance to help bring an end to the genocide. Unfortunately, it seems like some people would rather have the killing continue than manipulate Trump through the mere suggestion that he can bring peace.
What kind of homeopathic Jedi mind trick is this? I don’t want the killing to continue. That’s why I didn’t want Trump, and why I am attempting to talk sense into people who for some asinine reason are celebrating what a good job he’s going to do of stopping it. I cannot believe that on a supposedly technie / leftist social media platform I am having to explain to people that Trump isn’t a caring or capable individual when they are swearing he’s accomplished a great success for human rights before even coming into office. I cannot fathom what would make any intelligent person, at this point and watching his track record so far, think that.
How popular do you think pro-Palestinian viewpoints are among the news Trump watches, or any of the people he talks to? The people influencing him, I think, mostly think all the Palestinians should die and the faster the better. That’s not going to change because of a story in The Guardian, or The Wall Street Journal, or on Fox News. For one thing, even if he somehow were spurred to action, it would require actual toughness and cleverness in dealing with Netanyahu, which Trump doesn’t have.
It’s absolutely true that Trump can be manipulated to do various things almost without limit, by people flattering him. The degree to which he cares about what pro-Palestinian youth in the United States think has nothing to do with whether they think he’s doing a good job being a peacemaker. It is limited to whether they are going to make a problem which warrants him deploying the National Guard against them with live ammunition.
It’s not a Jedi mind trick to suggest that if Trump can be easily manipulated, those who care should try to influence him towards good. It doesn’t matter if “being good” is Trump’s desire or not. I absolutely agree with Maggoty that Trump would love being credited as a peacemaker, and I think his ego can drive him to want to fulfill that role.
That’s neat, but professing how much you didn’t and still don’t want him isn’t going to do anyone any good at this point. Trump is going to be sworn in next week regardless. Articles like this one from The Guardian are significantly more helpful at influencing a better path forward than constant doomerism. I would absolutely love it if Trump can find any success in the peacemaking process.
I thought about posting “We need to see more fake good stories about Trump in the press. He’ll see them, and start doing good things, and if you don’t agree, you would rather have him do bad thing and you’re bad” to meanwhileongrad or a new post on this community, but I decided it’s not really worth the bandwidth. The two of you are out of your minds.
I’m not sure how your theoretical post serves any purpose beside setting up a strawman. This hasn’t been about inventing fake stories, but instead, about dangling a very real carrot in front of the new US president.