• PhilipTheBucketA
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    4 days ago

    So I first got suspicious of them when they aired a story about economic troubles in rural America… and they kept going out of their way to connect it to the Democrats. I mean, they’re not really wrong, but at the time they aired it was right in the middle of Biden’s absolutely massive effort to address economic troubles for working Americans. They talked about how wages have been going down for these people in this small town for decades because of 100% bipartisan not-giving-a-shit (which, yes, fair), without mentioning that wages had been going up pretty specifically and specifically for that small town for the past year, because of the IRA.

    I mean that alone is not fatal. Not everyone with bad things to say about the Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer corporatocracy is a secret Chinese agent or anything. But it just started to strike me as weird the conjunction of:

    • Random YouTube channel out of nowhere
    • Weirdly high production values
    • General adherence to things all leftists already believe, lots of focus on just repeating and emphasizing them
    • Casts about, before the election, trying any which way they can to single out Democrats and Democrats alone for criticism
    • Talks up third parties as a good solution, no particular stance on RCV or other reforms that would make them viable

    If someone tells me that we can add to that list a new bullet point “Weirdly totally unconcerned about human rights abuses in China and in fact hostile to the idea that they happen and to anyone who wants to talk about them,” that would be another huge bullet point in the pattern that would start to take the shape of a pretty recognizable outline, to me.

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      4 days ago

      Thank you for the information. I think I had seen that video, but didn’t consider the timing of when it released. That does seem odd.

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        4 days ago

        Yeah. There are people like Hasan Piker who are clearly just talking about what they want to talk about, and the chips fall where they may. And then, there are other people in the landscape, where the topics of conversation follow a very particular ebb and flow (as you say, the economy and the government’s relationship to it has suddenly become super unimportant to them, now, this year, not worthy of close and extensive examination all of a sudden). And also, when those topics are discussed, certain very particular framings and cliches seem to show up again and again.

        I honestly don’t really know which category “Second Thought” falls into. My suspicion of them isn’t based on all that much more than a couple things I found suspicious. But I did find a couple things about them to be suspicious.

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          3 days ago

          Well that’s interesting, thanks for sharing. I think it’s good to always ask questions about what media we consume. Even if we like what it’s saying or think it’s fine. Critical thinking and being cautious can never hurt