For me it helps to put some of these things in a sequence of events. First the US/EU actually supported the Russian response in Chechnya
I don’t care. Like I said, the State Department’s viewpoint means nothing to me. Clinton presided over a whole lot of terrible fuckery.
That’s not to say that people in separatist regions shouldn’t be able to express themselves, but that it wasn’t the standard for how world leaders treated breakaway regions until then.
Like I said, world leaders are almost as hypocritical on this issue as Russia is. They basically, for the most part, say whatever’s in their best interests and often invest significant effort into inflaming this kind of “breakaway” region into a way to completely ruin whatever country and collapse it into a war in which they try to put their guy on top once it’s all over. That’s absolutely nothing to do with me.
It’s wrong when the US does it, wrong when Russia does it. Not complicated.
I did quote the official report for them in that response, in fact I only referenced so as not to include the editorializing.
I wasn’t editorializing. For an example, a quote is:
The attack was carried out by fascist thugs who were empowered in the U.S.-NATO-backed Maidan coup in Ukraine.
Versus
As soon as the march began to make its way towards the stadium, anti-Maidan activists approached
and attacked the demonstrators, some firing shots at them, still with no interference from the police.
Both sides used pyrotechnic devices and airguns, and threw stones, stun grenades and Molotov
cocktails
Exactly 100% backwards. They are lying on purpose. Again, I don’t see why I would need to be friendly to that or to anyone who’s posting it.
This is what I meant by complicity- failing to be transparent and diligent in investigating something serious, like murders, can look like you’re favoring one side.
That is actually what the judgement said. That’s not what the covertactionmagazine article said. What it said was that they strangled a pregnant woman to death with an electrical cord and drew a swastika with her blood on the wall. That’s the difference I’m highlighting.
to give you an analogy for the understanding that state powers will instrumentalize any struggle, national or otherwise, for geopolitical ends
Yes, absolutely. Which is why I have very little patience for any random individual who wants to instrumentalize whatever struggle in the same way, whichever state they’re stumping for. They’re not on your side, you don’t need to help them do that.
I don’t care. Like I said, the State Department’s viewpoint means nothing to me. Clinton presided over a whole lot of terrible fuckery.
Like I said, world leaders are almost as hypocritical on this issue as Russia is. They basically, for the most part, say whatever’s in their best interests and often invest significant effort into inflaming this kind of “breakaway” region into a way to completely ruin whatever country and collapse it into a war in which they try to put their guy on top once it’s all over. That’s absolutely nothing to do with me.
It’s wrong when the US does it, wrong when Russia does it. Not complicated.
I wasn’t editorializing. For an example, a quote is:
Versus
Exactly 100% backwards. They are lying on purpose. Again, I don’t see why I would need to be friendly to that or to anyone who’s posting it.
That is actually what the judgement said. That’s not what the covertactionmagazine article said. What it said was that they strangled a pregnant woman to death with an electrical cord and drew a swastika with her blood on the wall. That’s the difference I’m highlighting.
Yes, absolutely. Which is why I have very little patience for any random individual who wants to instrumentalize whatever struggle in the same way, whichever state they’re stumping for. They’re not on your side, you don’t need to help them do that.