likely in response to my comments on the beehaw post, which i linked to (hopefully im doing this right?). apparently, calling people you dont know for the first time “they/them” before being told their pronouns is “misgendering”. absurd. this kind of attitude threatens the larger LGBTQ community and is partially why cishets hate us after we won so much progress back in the 00s and 10s.
im a queer person. im neurodivergent. this shit is so goddamn fucking annoying, especially as an older queer who got physically assaulted on a near daily basis for being queer in the 90s. the kids today get their panties in a twist over being supposedly “misgendered” by someone calling them gender neutral pronouns before being corrected. narcissistic victimhood bullshit.
anyways, now banned from one of my favorite instances. meanwhile in the US theyre planning on hunting us. but yeah, lets ban fellow queers over their view that people who get mad about being “misgendered” when they arent (cis people are also referred to as “they/them” before further context in a conversation with a stranger) are just attention seeking brats that threaten the larger movement. its so obvious to me that the brats who find reason to be offended over innocent pronoun use never faced real adversity, like getting repeatedly physically beaten.
edit - the best part of all of this is i faced no moderation from beehaw and all of my comments are +1 or higher. power tripping oversensitive neurodivergent hating bastard of a mod over at blahaj IMO.
edit 2 - did this wrong. heres a link to the post i think got me banned from blahaj and a screenshot about it https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37659465
Edit 3 - apparently I did nothing wrong until I made my thoughts known about how the pronoun police fucked over the larger LGBTQ community as our rights are backsliding in America. Yall are gonna whine about being misgendered to the concentration camp guards at the rate we’re going. God forbid I be angry that while queers were busy fighting over pronouns our adversaries stuffed the courts, stuffed the school boards, couped the government, and are installing a fascist dictatorship. When I say that these fucking toddlers are going to learn what real oppression tastes like, that’s what I mean. It’s not that I want us to be hurt or oppressed (as the dog piling idiots have interpreted), it’s that the younger generation is weak as hell and lost the fucking plot in the fight for our rights. I grew up getting beaten in the streets for being queer only for these kids to claim their pronouns not being mind-read is oppression!
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I’m sure you’ve been banned at some point, your modlog shows that sometimes you’re a dick to people. As am I. It’s all good. What we were talking about I think, was the idea that EU instances will censor you if you try to talk bad about EU countries.
I posted that article to the geopol community, even though it honestly doesn’t even really fit there. Let’s see what happens. It might get removed for legitimate or illegitimate reasons, or it might just stay up, let’s see.
These comments got censored a few times.
I could be wrong but my point being that all instances have un written rules of what can be said before hammer comes out.
I have seen similar comments censored on reddit that’s how I first noticed this pattern.
This is such a weird conversation.
If I misunderstood your original point, and you were saying that all instances have un written rules of what can be said, but they may not actually include bans for talking about German Nazis nepo babies on some EU instances, just moderation as a general concept, and that you have been subjected to moderation at some points in the past, that wouldn’t have been applied to someone who was talking about German Nazis etc, then cool. But you can understand how I could have gotten that impression of that first thing.
I have only scene moderation of this talking point on EU focused subs on reddit and EU instance subs here.
Yeah, but you get what I’m saying too, right? I have not seen it. Maybe I missed it, that’s why I am doing the experiment of posting some stuff that you say gets censored, to places where you say it’s getting censored, and seeing if it gets censored.
FWIW, I’ve done the opposite experiment, commenting extensively on Xinjiang on lemmy.ml, and I didn’t get censored that time that I did it, and it went on for a pretty long time. I just know that as a rule, the .ml instances sort of reserve the right for themselves to censor “wrong” points of view according to the Russian or Chinese government’s definition of “wrong,” in a way that Western server administrators do not do.
Sometimes, when people get moderated for being obnoxious, they might blame it on the point of view, but in my experience just doing an anti-EU point of view in an EU server is fine. Complaining about the government or past/present evils of their society is a pretty normal and common thing to do in Western culture, outside of weird propaganda spaces (which includes a lot of Western top-down media, which maybe is where some of the confusion comes in about it.)
Yeah I am following. I also think that ML reduced heavy handed modding as Lemmy is growing to reduce pushing away new users since they get mocked heavily for it which is bad PR.
Just to clarify mocking german nazi nepo babies is not anti EU, it is anti German capital and how it was created. Europeans likely germans will get bent out of shape over it. VW cleansed its reputation
Another one that the French will get bent out of shape is the CFA Franc regime, although that will just get down votes and screaching. I have not seen it out right censored like nazi nepo baby topic.
Yeah, I definitely agree with this. Which means that the mocking is a worthwhile thing to do, since it’s increasing the ability for people to speak freely on the internet.
I actually do see the other side of it: There’s a certain negative aspect, if you’re giving some grief about something, because it’s going to create hostility even if you’re right. Some battles you don’t need to pick necessarily. But I do think that this is such a clear-cut case of right and wrong, which is existing right at the root of what I guess has the potential to become one little piece of an important part of free internet social-media infrastructure, that it’s worth making complaints about. I would feel exactly the same way (actually probably a lot more intensely about) if Lemmy instances in the EU were doing the bidding of EU governments and censoring commentary that wasn’t the way the government wanted things presented.