Thank you for the good faith response.

Update: only just got a chance to watch it and his “eat my entire ass comment” seems not to be related to the initiative itself but to the way Ross framed how the initiative was going to be easy to make into law becuase of a bunch of really weird reasons unrelated to the merit of the initiative that seemed very backhanded and sketchy. I completely agree that Ross’s comment were incredibly slimy and cynical even as I still mostly agree with the initiative. Just seems like people are taking the comment out of that context and getting pissed over something he didnt actually say or mean about the initiative itself. And, as i said before, I couldn’t give two fucks about personal beef between creators. I know nothing about Ross Scott and have only seen him in this context.

That’s a pretty twisted way to view the world. We are fundamentally different kinds of people. I think are done here. No way we will agree on anything if that’s how you think.

My point was that this rage mill has produced a lot of extreme negativity and this post, among others, and the comment thread within, is propogating it. And, as far as I can tell, it is over, at best, Thor taking the possibilities of this petition as written to the extreme to illustrate his concerns for its vagueness. And even if he is dead wrong, completely mistaken, and now knows it and won’t admit to it, that does not, in anyway, justify the position he is put in now. I’m not say that you personally support him being swatted, or getting death threats, but not letting this shit go after a year of bullshit, letting it fester and boosting the rage, that’s what leads to that shit. Just let it go.

Thank you for the link.

And you don’t have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.

Didn’t say that you are. But for some reason you are arguing with me while I’m just saying that he doesn’t deserve all that. If we agree on that don’t know why you’re concerned with my comments.

Again, I ask. Who cares? Like you said, he’s just about the only one in opposition. The Petition is successful. His career is in shambles. Why is everyone still shitting on the guy. Why are people still posting about him and harassing him and the studio he worked for. Why not just move on even though he continues to disagree with you. How does that affect anyone now?

Where do you get that I’m picking fights? I’m telling people they need to calm down over a complete non-issue. Feel free to browse my post history to confirm. Scroll past the mayo jokes and discourse around time travel and spacetime.

And yeah, rage mill. Googling this story shows dozens and dozens of angry response videos or celebrating the SKG milestone as a victory over PirateSoftware, hundreds of hate posts calling him a liar (about seemingly everything, not just this), and a ton of news stories about the situation, about death threats and swatting and the guy stepping away from his indie studio over an opinion he expressed on a topic relevant to his work a year ago. Yes, rage mill.

I’d drive the bus.

If anyone should be shot or exiled, it’s hateful prices like this that endanger innocent lives. But no, it’s the browns and the trans that are the real danger, apparently.

You act like I’m living in the same rage mill you all are. Clearly I’m not. I’m familiar with PirateSoftware, but I dont follow all this shit. It is rage that has apparently been festering over a year and I am only just learning about it over the last week or two as the petition was hitting its goal, much of which I spent 16+ days working in the family fireworks stores. I am also at work now, about to leave. I googled the quote on my lunch break and couldn’t find the video. Forgive me for asking for a source so I could see for myself.

The microwave background is like a rainbow. When you move, it appears to move. You’re always at the “center” of it.

• Including anecdotes
• Written in the first person
• Tangents and nonlinear storytelling

Weird that AI can’t handle talking in the first person. Why just the other day I, a human, was saying to my sister, who is also human, about how strange AI is. See, she was grew up in another home with her mother where they didnt use as much technology. We shared a father who fought in Desert Storm. His favorite color was blue, like the kind you see in very thick ice. See most people think ice is just clear, but that is only becuase you need a lot of ice to properly refract light into its true blue color. Refraction works because colors come from different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation, and those wavelengths bend at different angles when refracted by passing through transparent materials… what was I saying? Oh yeah, AI is strange.

Space and time are the same thing. Spacetime. Time travel would necessarily also by teleportation if you are traveling instantaneously through spacetime. Unless of course your travel is continuous like it is currently for all of us, just sped up, slowed down or reversed.

Also there is no objective point of reference for location in the universe, only relative points of reference. In other words, you are always some distance in some direction from some thing. But you never have objective stable coordinates relative to the universe itself. There is no “center” or other fixed point of the universe. So the earth is moving, yes, but only relative to other independent celestial bodies. And those bodies are moving, too, relative to other bodies. Their movement is always relative to a non-absolute frame of reference. No movement is objective to the universe, it’s all relative.

So it would be illogical to expect the earth to have moved X miles away in Y direction if you teleported one second into the past/future because that would presuppose that your location was objective and absolute in the universe at the point of time traveling and the earth moved relative to your absolute location. It would break known physics if that were the case, as much as time travel itself would.

“This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass”

Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn’t see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it.

But at face value, I would still call that within the realms of normal criticism yes. He disagrees with the basis of the initiative. And disagreement doesn’t mean that one or the other party is necessarily mistaken or that they are maliciously refusing to admit their mistake if unconvinced. They can just disagree. And even if they were being malicious or ignorant or too embarassed to admit their mistake, so what? Just don’t engage, or argue in good faith. No need to swat the guy, make death threats, make weird personal attacks against him, or drag his name through the dirt across the entire internet because he is wrong or doesn’t suck it up and tell you that you are right.

So “eat my entire ass” is not inflammatory now?

Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn’t see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it.

Can you or someone share those slides, becuase I’m not seeing that either. I looked at the English language initiative text on the website on my lunch break and did not see them.

Tbf, if it comes to that, any nation or cooperative group of nations can do this without US law doing a damn thing.

The real download button only shows up after 30 seconds.

Again, not taking the “he’s definitely wrong” stance at face value. I’ll decide for myself. Reasonable people can disagree and both br “right” from their perspectives. Regardless, who gives a fuck if one person is wrong and doubles down on being wrong when they have no authority to stop this movement (clearly, as it has been quite successful regardless of his opinion). That shit happens 1 million times a day on the internet, and often from big names too. The facts is that, generally, he is an ally to the gaming community, particularly for indie gaming, and this is in-fighting bullshit.

He also lied and said community is attacking him to see if that will hurt the movement. Community in fact did not attack him.

They are attacking him now, here, publically dragging him through the dirt, and I’ve seen it elsewhere as well for the last week or two. What are you talking about? Why are we talking about him now if not becuase people are pissed off and hating on him? I read that someone even Swatted him.

Ok, I’ll look more into that to better understand if that is the case. But even if he was wrong about everything, why is such a misunderstanding worth the drama and backlash? Everybody is truly up in arms over what seems like pretty mild criticism even if that criticism is all mistaken. Especially if it is all mistaken, really. People are acting like he said “fuck gamers/consumers and their rights”, which is clearly not what happened. Disagreement isn’t the same as disparagment or conflict. Reasonable minds can differ.