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Foreign policy is tied to the decline of the American Empire.
Spending trillions of dollars on foreign wars, military budgets, and governments has a direct impact on domestic issues.
Again, the owner class (oligarchy) funds (bribes) our politicians to support the funding of more forever wars.
The world is becoming a multipolar world due to the rise of China and other countries. BRICS is an organization that promotes trade within these upcoming countries.
We must stop being the aggressor and start diplomacy.
common Russian propaganda.
Reply:
- These views are not only brought out due to being brainwashed or bought by Russia, China, Iran, Hamas, Code Pink, and other boogeymen.
- We just came to the same conclusion: that these forever wars are not helping the everyday person in the United States; in fact, they do the opposite.
What is Ukraine’s military ambition? In your world? What behavior by them would cause Russia to stop killing their citizens and taking their land?
Ukraine is just, sadly, another pawn of US aggression in trying to contain and regime change Russia.[1]
NATO, our European military aggression organization for now—Trump might change that, surprisingly.
Ukraine could have negotiated a peace treaty, like the one brought up in 2022, until Boris Johnson and the US interfered.
Now, it will be much harder to get that deal back.
Sounds good. If I just listed out a little handful of direct questions, would you be open to the idea of giving some direct answers to them instead of wandering off on a tangent about how I must have been inspired by Tom Cotton or AIPAC?,
It is all connected: our politicians, lobbying (legal bribes, donations), our foreign policy, and our declining American Empire.
AIPAC and Tom Cotton are pushing for more foreign funding and forever wars.
direct questions, would you be open to the idea of giving some direct answers
I can try!
I feel like we’re operating on two separate wavelengths here.
Yes, sorry.
I was trying to keep the discussion focused on what was mentioned in the interview while answering your questions.
I try to keep it in simple terms.
Many of the working class are struggling, and groups like Code Pink are just one group that tries to show what the majority of people feel.
Which is questioning the politicians on their voting record and trying to stop the funding of foreign military budgets that cause mass slaughter.
These views are not only brought out due to being brainwashed or bought by Russia, China, Iran, Hamas, Code Pink, and other boogeymen.
We just came to the same conclusion: that these forever wars are not helping the everyday person in the United States; in fact, they do the opposite.
AIPAC and Israel are not helping the United States; they are just buying our politicians and getting us to fight their wars in the Middle East.
Then AIPAC and Israel, and their paid politicians, smear (example of being labeled an antisemite; the video discusses this) anyone who is not pro-war and for their campaign of slaughtering civilians.
New polling shows that the majority of people now see Israel in a negative light, especially those between the ages of 18 and 49.[1]
Again, the majority of people want peace and ceasefires in Gaza and Ukraine, not a continuation of funding foreign governments and their military ambitions.
Sorry for failing to communicate in the way you wanted to; I will continue to try and learn!
[1] Glenn Greenwald Commentary: Censorship and New Israel Polling | https://lemmy.world/post/28280813 ↩︎
I thought you wanted a substantive discussion? If you wanted to just say “watch the video” then I didn’t need to type all of that.
We can’t have a substantive discussion if you don’t know what they discussed and what views National Co-Director of Code Pink Briahna expressed.
Ah, you read the transcripts!
open propaganda
https://medium.com/muros-invisibles/code-pink-and-the-politics-of-privilege-475234e4490f
You label the video as open propaganda while posting a propaganda smear piece against Code Pink. The article does not speak to or question anyone from the organization; they just continue to spew government and US military talking points.
sending any weapons to Ukraine
pro-China
I do feel like their solutions are kind of lackluster
This just seems kind of laughable
aligned perfectly with Russia
The populace in the United States is for peace, and they want a ceasefire in Gaza and in Ukraine.
There is a reason why they did not vote for a continuation of Biden/Harris, due to the status quo of funding and arming foreign countries.
Trump’s pseudo-populist views of wanting to end the wars and stopping the funding of foreign nations are what the people were looking for.
Code Pink is a reaction to the populist views of the people in the United States.
Which is why they continue to confront so many politicians and question them on their actions of siding with foreign nations instead of helping the people in the United States.
Confronting these politicians helps them show what these politicians continue to vote for, the status quo, educating and inspiring people to join in on the movement; they want to build a working-class movement, since the majority of the populace is against war and for peace and a ceasefire.
Thanks for replying!
The video addresses your concerns; it seems you do not take them at their word and instead solely only believe what politicians, like Tom Cotton, claim while appealing to authority, instead of questioning their narratives.
The video shows that these “US politicians,” like Tom Cotton, receive AIPAC money and are, in fact, paid agents of a foreign country. Funny how politicians continue to smear protestors with what they themselves do on the regular.
Open Secrets:
Cotton, Tom (R-AR) | Arkansas | $237,577[1]
It is important to know the views of independent journalists and commentators, not only the owner class-owned mainstream media narratives.
If you only consume US military propaganda, I can see why you think the highlighted areas are of concern.
Like Code Pink, I am also anti-war.
Many attention seekers in forums, self-censorship is your right; no need to inform us of your disdain for dissent and those against the status quo.
Let me know if you would like to have a substantive discussion of the video instead of pushing for more censorship for those that do not think like you want them to.
All is well, though. Peace!
P.S.: I hope we may come together on other topics or just have a discussion on what is posted and the topics discussed in the video.
I see Richard Wolff; I upvote.
Bernie Sanders, the Justice Democrats, the Working Families Party, and Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) are a failed experiment.
We need an independent grassroots movement by and for the working class.
Check out Workers Strike Back.
For those interested:
We need to build an organized, unified movement of working people to systematically take on the rich who run society, and to undermine their ability to rule. Our goal must be to both fight for radical change in the present and to bring down the billionaires and their system. There is no other path to avoid total disaster for human civilization and the planet.
Working people need to be clear about who our enemies are. Our enemies are not other working-class or middle-class people, immigrants, the poor, Muslims, trans people, ordinary Republican or Democratic voters, nor independent voters or nonvoters. Our enemies are those who make millions or billions of dollars a year, own the politicians, own the land and resources, and who call the shots in this system. Our enemies are also those who justify and protect the interests of the rich.
The billionaires themselves are fully responsible for the disasters engulfing us — Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the healthcare CEOs, the major shareholders on Wall Street. It is not some collective “we” or “human nature” which is responsible; it’s the rich who put their profits ahead of everything and everyone. We need to end the billionaire class and their system once and for all.[1]
The same source also stressed that the suggestion of Russian involvement remained a “theory” for the time being. “The proof lies with the [German] investigating authorities… there are many arguments to at least investigate that theory.”
Edit: Alt. Link: https://archive.is/57HnE
“It’s interesting. There might have been a little outside help but there is no proof.”
Israelis are from all over the world
The video is showing that the prime ministers were from Eastern Europe.
Second, only if you draw your line at some arbitrary point. Were Palestinians there 50,000 years ago? No, no they were not. Neither were Israelis.
Indigenous or less commonly indigenous : of, relating to, or descended from the earliest known inhabitants of a place and especially of a place that was colonized[1]
Palestinians are the known inhabitants before being colonized.
Israeli state forced them to be refugees and they were moved to a small area.
Now Israel government is trying to bomb and force them out of the small area.
You’re ignoring what I’m saying. I said there are no indigenous people. You then said “forcing the indigenous people”.
We are all indigenous to Africa. No one is indigenous to Palestine. Not Israelis, not Palestinians. Both deserve basic human rights, including the right to live in the region, anyway.
I am disagreeing with your argument of trying to disregard the indigenous meaning.
Palestinians are from the Middle East; the Israelis are from Eastern Europe, which is explained in the video. That is a major reason why the prime ministers change their names, so as to fit their narratives and to continue their apartheid state and genocide.
It’s not strange or wrong in any way, and definitely not “evidence” of anything important.
It is important, and the video lays out why while also explaining the history and providing additional background.
Regarding the “indigenous” argument, it’s kinda silly. Humans are “indigenous” to the continent of Africa, and nowhere else. There are many other, more legitimate reasons why we should allow cultures to live, but who was there “first” is not logically one of them. Very, very few people in the world live where they “are from”, yet they are still legitimate citizens of their area.
Again, the video addresses the major difference between your argument and the one being explained in the video.
One is that Israel, an apartheid state, has been occupying the Palestinian people in an internment camp for over 50 years while forcing the indigenous people to become refugees.
You do not need to be “from” somewhere specific to deserve basic human rights.
Yes, the Palestinian people do deserve basic human rights, but the Israeli government continues to disregard the basic human rights of the Palestinian people while genociding them, with the full support of the United States government.
Oh, interesting.
Compared to Piers Morgan interviews, I thought it went well for Gary Stevenson.
He was able to articulate his points across to a greater audience in simple-to-understand terms while having the time to restate his thoughts in many ways.
I love long-form discussions!
It is a privilege to witness the speakers express themselves in multiple ways instead of gunning for sound bites due to artificial time constraints.
Yes, that is the problem with the duopoly (Democrats and Republicans).
Both parties continue to push for more forever wars where the working class is being sent to die, while the oligarchs continue to profit from these wars.
Both administrations, Republican and Democrat, will continue to support and fund the genocide in Palestine while pushing for war with Iran and China.
I understand, but we must continue to try and pressure him, like the person interviewing him, to be more direct in his actions by pushing him to the left.
Politicians need to be pressured and forced, or they will continue their status quo ways even when a genocide is happening.
Yes, we always need to work on ourselves and never stop learning and fighting our own biases, especially when talking to people that don’t think like we do.
Thanks for those words and for the reminder!
I wonder if they got this information from the same people that said Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia is MS-13 and Mahmoud Khalil is Hamas.
Iran, Russia, and China are all a part of BRICS and conduct military drills together. It would be better if our government learned some diplomacy and stopped our decades of aggression.
Col. Douglas Abbott Macgregor talks about Iran, China, and Russia.[1]
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[1] https://lemmy.world/post/28282112 ↩︎